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Old 08-03-2014, 10:14 PM  
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Old 08-16-2014, 07:51 PM   #271
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Im not debating at all that Logan Thomas underachieved in college.

but, if you watched any of his tape from his freshmen season, you could see potential.

that's all I am saying.

Look, so we stop trying this one ups manship bullshit, lets look at it this way.

Colin Kaepernick.

Would he be colin kaepernick without Jim Harbaugh?

I say no, some times you just get put into a PERFECT situation.

That's all im saying.

Logan Thomas, with say Rex Ryan, and the Jets.

I would have ZERO faith in him.

its situation.
a lot of success in this league, is based on situation.

Just my opinion.

some will disagree. Take Clay, or count zarth if you will.

He believes foolishly that a GREAT QB, OVER COMES ALL ODDS.

Now, most know that isn't true. Look at Drew Brees. The year he didn't have Sean Payton, they went 7-9.

there is a reason that the NFL is the most TEAM centric sport.

One player, can make a difference, but he cant over come everything.

Situation. Its a huge part of the game.

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Old 08-16-2014, 08:00 PM   #272
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Im not debating at all that Logan Thomas underachieved in college.

but, if you watched any of his tape from his freshmen season, you could see potential.

that's all I am saying.

Potential means you haven't done shit.

Look, so we stop trying this one ups manship bullshit, lets look at it this way.

Colin Kaepernick.

Would he be colin kaepernick without Jim Harbaugh?

I say no, some times you just get put into a PERFECT situation.

That's all im saying.

I don't agree. What makes Kapernick great is his god given physical attributes and the scheme they run. it's not his ability to read defenses or anything Harabaugh has taught him. Jim just put him in a position to succeed with the tools he's got.

Logan Thomas, with say Rex Ryan, and the Jets.

I would have ZERO faith in him.

I agree that he has a better shot with Arians but I also don't think Arians gives much of a shit about project players.

its situation.
a lot of success in this league, is based on situation.

Just my opinion.

some will disagree. Take Clay, or count zarth if you will.

He believes foolishly that a GREAT QB, OVER COMES ALL ODDS.

Now, most know that isn't true. Look at Drew Brees. The year he didn't have Sean Payton, they went 7-9.

Brees was great before he went to New Orleans. Marty would have won a Superbowl with him imo. Payton didn't make Drew Brees man. I don't see it that way at all.

there is a reason that the NFL is the most TEAM centric sport.

One player, can make a difference, but he cant over come everything.

Situation. Its a huge part of the game.

I agree but I also think the most important attribute for a QB is his ability in clutch situations, big games, and big moments. You know Russell Wilson was supposed to go in the 5th or 6th round. Know why Carroll took him in the the 3rd? Because he had seven 4th quarter comebacks at Wisconsin in one season. It's the most important thing man.

have a nice night bud.
Let's let it play out. I like my odds. Good night dude. It was fun.
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Also, while watching Aaron Donald and the Rams earlier, he wasn't quite as effective as he was in week 1. Why is that? They literally double-teamed him on every play. Rookie in his first Pre-Season and he's already seeing the majority of the double teams along that Rams front. I don't blame the other team though, Donald was as unblockable as a DT could be last week.
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Not for nothing, Thomas looked really good in Week 1.

Haven't seen him this week, though.
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BJ Coleman, Tyler Bray, Logan Thomas.... There are guys with big arms and measurable every single year.
There are what 20 QB's in the NFL that can be called solid at a minimum? And those 20 guys are from ages 25-38 so you might get 1 or 2 guys a year out of a draft class that turn into solid NFL QB's so yeah betting against a QB being a franchise type guy is always the smart bet regardless of skill set.
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Not for nothing, Thomas looked really good in Week 1.

Haven't seen him this week, though.
I think they are trying to hide him a little bit. Maybe ps.
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Think I'm over this Santos kid. For such a "big leg" he has yet to even come close to a touchback on a kick off.

I can't imagine they are telling their kickers to kick it short when Succop is kicking them out of the endzone left and right.
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Think I'm over this Santos kid. For such a "big leg" he has yet to even come close to a touchback on a kick off.

I can't imagine they are telling their kickers to kick it short when Succop is kicking them out of the endzone left and right.
I think it could be a courtesy.

All our preseason opponents want to get work on their special teams too. Coaches talk about that stuff ahead of time.

If the know Santos can boom them, why make him prove it? Whereas Succop needs to prove her can do it consistently, so we give him a chance to prove it.

Not saying that's what is happening, but might be a way to handle the situation that best served all involved.
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I think it could be a courtesy.

All our preseason opponents want to get work on their special teams too. Coaches talk about that stuff ahead of time.

If the know Santos can boom them, why make him prove it? Whereas Succop needs to prove her can do it consistently, so we give him a chance to prove it.

Not saying that's what is happening, but might be a way to handle the situation that best served all involved.
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I think it could be a courtesy.

All our preseason opponents want to get work on their special teams too. Coaches talk about that stuff ahead of time.

If the know Santos can boom them, why make him prove it? Whereas Succop needs to prove her can do it consistently, so we give him a chance to prove it.

Not saying that's what is happening, but might be a way to handle the situation that best served all involved.
They straight up said after the first preseason game they instructed the kickers to kick short, I believe to test our own coverage units. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they asked Santos to do the same last night. I was surprised to see Succop kicking long to be honest.
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