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Old 08-19-2014, 11:23 AM   #1
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There were no other options to letting Albert go. Don't even bring up Stephenson at LT bc he looked way worse than Fisher the other night.
He was playing out of position. Stephenson is a natural left tackle and probably would have been a 1st round pick if he had stayed in school. Unlike Fisher, we have actual games where we watched him play well at LT.
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Old 08-19-2014, 11:51 AM   #2
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He was playing out of position. Stephenson is a natural left tackle and probably would have been a 1st round pick if he had stayed in school. Unlike Fisher, we have actual games where we watched him play well at LT.
No way. Stephenson got pushed back into Alex all night. That's not a position problem. That's a strength problem
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:07 PM   #3
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No way. Stephenson got pushed back into Alex all night. That's not a position problem. That's a strength problem
So the most-used excuse for Fisher isn't valid for Stephenson?

Interesting.

By the way, we have actual observational experience of Stephenson playing LEFT tackle at an adequate level. Sunday's preseason game means less than nothing in this conversation. It's completely irrelevant.
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So the most-used excuse for Fisher isn't valid for Stephenson?

Interesting.

By the way, we have actual observational experience of Stephenson playing LEFT tackle at an adequate level. Sunday's preseason game means less than nothing in this conversation. It's completely irrelevant.
Stephenson has played 1 year longer and didn't have shoulder surgery. He also went to LeCharles Bentley's highly documented camp for OL.

What competition was Stephenson against while playing LT? It's early for Fisher, but the Bengals and Panthers DL are both top 10. Still too early for him.

Let's check back on this after the first month of the season. If Fisher is still struggling than we have problems.
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Old 08-19-2014, 01:15 PM   #5
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Stephenson has played 1 year longer and didn't have shoulder surgery. He also went to LeCharles Bentley's highly documented camp for OL.

What competition was Stephenson against while playing LT? It's early for Fisher, but the Bengals and Panthers DL are both top 10. Still too early for him.

Let's check back on this after the first month of the season. If Fisher is still struggling than we have problems.
Stephenson has played the actual Left tackle position in actual real-live NFL games, which is more than we can say for Fisher.

This isn't about Fisher struggling. This about the idea that once they decided to get rid of Albert they were FORCED to draft Fisher.

That's the kind of tunnel vision that creates 20-year playoff droughts.
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Stephenson has played the actual Left tackle position in actual real-live NFL games, which is more than we can say for Fisher.

This isn't about Fisher struggling. This about the idea that once they decided to get rid of Albert they were FORCED to draft Fisher.

That's the kind of tunnel vision that creates 20-year playoff droughts.
LT was the consensus strongest position and we were not keeping Albert. So yeah it's poor planning like that that leads to failure. Good teams replace old talent with new talent.

Fisher not looking good is very troubling though. No doubt about it
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:08 PM   #7
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Stephenson has played 1 year longer and didn't have shoulder surgery. He also went to LeCharles Bentley's highly documented camp for OL.

What competition was Stephenson against while playing LT? It's early for Fisher, but the Bengals and Panthers DL are both top 10. Still too early for him.

Let's check back on this after the first month of the season. If Fisher is still struggling than we have problems.
A tackle taken with the first pick should look damn impressive. He shouldn't be getting ran over by guys like Parys Haralson and Carlos Dunlap.

He was manhandled last year when he wasn't coming off shoulder surgery.

The excuses keep on coming.
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A tackle taken with the first pick should look damn impressive. He shouldn't be getting ran over by guys like Parys Haralson and Carlos Dunlap.

He was manhandled last year when he wasn't coming off shoulder surgery.

The excuses keep on coming.
I watched WITH MY OWN EYES as Austin Lane walked him like a dog at training camp last year....a guy cut by the jaguars and us.

Carlos Dunlap isn't a bad player, but as you said first overall picks need to be able to dominate those level of players.
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I watched WITH MY OWN EYES as Austin Lane walked him like a dog at training camp last year....a guy cut by the jaguars and us.

Carlos Dunlap isn't a bad player, but as you said first overall picks need to be able to dominate those level of players.

Jesus, what were the people around you saying when everyone saw that?
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