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Old 11-20-2014, 08:12 PM  
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Old 11-22-2014, 06:34 PM   #121
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The bottom line is that he's not playing commeasurate with his $11.6 million dollar salary, just as Bowe isn't playing to his $11.5 million dollar salary.

There's a ton of Bowe hate and a ton of Berry love.

It doesn't make any sense.

Given the fact that he's banged up and only played in less than half of our games, I'll definitely agree.

Earl Thomas also isn't living up to his contract this season. Neither was Byrd before injury. Kam Chancellor isn't near what he was last year. What I've seen of Ward has been ass this season.

I'm just offering up a little perspective for people with the noose and pitchforks.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:00 PM   #122
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Berry can make his salary worth it if he makes some big plays against Denver.


I don't expect it, though. He is slow and stiff as ****.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:14 PM   #123
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Berry can make his salary worth it if he makes some big plays against Denver.


I don't expect it, though. He is slow and stiff as ****.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:38 PM   #124
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You can't play corner in today's NFL.
I mostly disagree.

Sure, the rules make it extremely tough on corners but I think most of the guys playing CB in the NFL are absolutely amazing athletes.

The way some of these guys can provide blanket coverage without mugging WR's is often astonishing to me.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:43 PM   #125
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I mostly disagree.

Sure, the rules make it extremely tough on corners but I think most of the guys playing CB in the NFL are absolutely amazing athletes.

The way some of these guys can provide blanket coverage without mugging WR's is often astonishing to me.
I agree with that, no doubt. What I mean is they can't play corner like they used to. You think Kevin Ross and Albert Lewis could match up with the athletes of today's corners? They'd be "ok". But wouldn't be the same.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:44 PM   #126
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I agree with that, no doubt. What I mean is they can't play corner like they used to. You think Kevin Ross and Albert Lewis could match up with the athletes of today's corners? They'd be "ok". But wouldn't be the same.
Albert Lewis? Absolutely. He was long and lean and soooooooooooo smooth. He was amazing on Special Teams, too.

Ross may have a little more trouble but I think his athleticism would have allowed him to a be a very good #3, if not a good #2.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:48 PM   #127
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Albert Lewis? Absolutely. He was long and lean and soooooooooooo smooth. He was amazing on Special Teams, too.

Ross may have a little more trouble but I think his athleticism would have allowed him to a be a very good #3, if not a good #2.
If they were in their prime, and played today, could they match up with guys like what Arizona has (Patrick Peterson and Antonio)? Just a general question.
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:11 PM   #128
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Old 11-22-2014, 09:29 PM   #129
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Berry was playing fantastic his rookie season...He looked like the next great Safety. Since his injury...he has been a an above average player. He is in no way a "Superstar"...or game-changer. He is riding on name recognition..

In fairness...that $11.6 million is because of the absurd rookie pay-scale that he was part of. It's why people didn't normally draft that position #5 overall. I wish he had continued to progress into the best in the league..it didn't work out that way.

Berry is a 6 million a year player....if he had been drafted in the 2nd round..I would be OK with him and his adjusted salary.
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Old 11-22-2014, 09:32 PM   #130
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His rookie season was good, but slightly overrated IMO. Last year was his best season.
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His rookie season is horribly overrated.

It took him like 8 weeks to get his first INT and, IIRC, it came against a putrid Titans team that was surely starting some scrub at QB.

He looked like shit in man coverage and got legitimately raped by Antonio Gates. To this day, when people say he sucks in man coverage, it's because of his rookie season.

He ended on a decent note by being everywhere in the playoff slaughterhouse against Baltimore.
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Old 11-22-2014, 09:40 PM   #132
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His rookie season is horribly overrated.

It took him like 8 weeks to get his first INT and, IIRC, it came against a putrid Titans team that was surely starting some scrub at QB.

He looked like shit in man coverage and got legitimately raped by Antonio Gates. To this day, when people say he sucks in man coverage, it's because of his rookie season.

He ended on a decent note by being everywhere in the playoff slaughterhouse against Baltimore.
He helped win us the Buffalo Bills game that season. Everyone seems to forget that one.
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He helped win us the Buffalo Bills game that season. Everyone seems to forget that one.

He's helped us win a lot of games. He's been one of our best defenders since he got here.
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He's helped us win a lot of games. He's been one of our best defenders since he got here.
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When a player goes out...and the team not only doesn't miss a beat..but actually improves...and said player is the highest paid player/team is cash strapped? That is the debate...Berry still has trade value.

Maybe you guys think he is more valuable than I do...
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