Congratz Dorsey, you suck.

[Mr. Laz]

You inherited a team that was a decent HC and QB away from being a playoff level team.

Reid arrived, wanted his QB and we made the playoffs.

It's been downhill ever since.

FA Losses: T Branden Albert, G Jon Asamoah, S Quintin Demps, DE Tyson Jackson, ILB Akeem Jordan, RB/WR Dexter McCluster, DT Jerrell Powe, G Geoff Schwartz, FS Kendrick Lewis.

We missed Albert at LT. Even though Fisher's play improved today, we still have no OT depth and were shredded at RT.

We missed Asamoah and Schwartz at guard. They might not be great but they are better than the scrubs you added off the street.

We missed McCluster in the slot, we had nothing but Avery today.

We missed Tyson Jackson, run defense along Dline was terrible.

You even made us miss Kendrick Lewis and Quentin Demps. Lewis was dog crap, but he's better than the nothing we have at backup safety now.

We missed Flowers whom you cut for money and didn't add anyone

We missed average Succop whom you cut for money.

You acted like it didn't matter who we lost because Reid/Smith were like Belichek /Brady and they would just find some way to win. They aren't.

Your drafts have been borderline terrible.



A steaming pile of shit is what you've built.

Congratz on your pending run to the 1st pick of the draft next year.

Oh, something else ...... **** you.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Our defense is better.

You can't win if you can't throw.
You can't throw if you don't have time or you're on your ass.

Yes and we're a very inconsistent team. We've lost to teams like the 0-10 Raiders and Titans and beat teams like the Seahawks and Pats.

We were doing fine when we were 7-3. And that was a legitimate 7-3. Tough schedule, no bullshit calls, no lucky bounces, no major injuries to opponents (especially QBs). We lost to the Titans in game 1. We lost to the Raiders in a short week on a road game. 2 losses that far apart does NOT make you inconsistent.

This same offense that was able to score points at the end of last year can't do $3it this year. Reid still insists on passing with a line that's much better at run blocking than pass blocking.

The offense has regressed slightly. The defense has improved tremendously. What's funny about your comment is that last year's offensive line was horrible. The oline improved dramatically the last 8 games. Their record in those games was 2-6 with those wins being against Washington and Oakland. But I guess because the offense was fun to watch, that's all that matters.

And the Chargers and Donks have played pretty much the same schedule and both of those teams have a better record than us at this point.

Is that better?...

What does that have to do with anything? The question is if we're better than last year. Last year, we won a lot of games because of a laughingstock schedule and playing a bunch of backup QBs. This year, we are a legit 7-5 against a brutal schedule and a huge string of key injuries.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Ugh, No.

Unfortunately yes, I wouldn't advocate it but the sell itself is justifiable.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't know.

I was pretty high on Dorsey & Reid but the last two games (coupled with Tennessee and SF) really have me concerned about the Chiefs future. While Dorsey's done well with role players, his high draft picks have been a disappointment at best.

And as Reid goes, so do the Chiefs. If his play calling is great, the Chiefs win. If his play calling is poor, the Chiefs lose. His poor decision making greatly affects the defensive side of the ball, too.

I think most of that is because the Chiefs are so bad on the OL and receiver that Reid has to be creative every week to get progress.

There needs to be 2 new OL and a legit WR added this spring.

But yes Andy does make some frustrating calls. That's for sure

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Did we sell some tickets?

[Titty Meat]

We easily should have lost to the bills if for not a miracle fumble and shitty red zone qb. There was a no call on Baldwin which leads to the go ahead TD. This team easily could be 5-7

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

We easily should have lost to the bills if for not a miracle fumble and shitty red zone qb. There was a no call on Baldwin which leads to the go ahead TD. This team easily could be 5-7

Great, now we're going to play this game? How does 1 loss get you from 7-5 to 5-7? And by that same token, if the refs don't call a BS pass interference call against Oakland then Oakland may not have scored that final TD.

JFC. We have a tough schedule, all of our wins are legit wins against mostly uninjured rosters, good mix between road/home wins, and we're still making excuses for games we won. This is a team with some fundamental gaps. But it's undoubtedly a better team than 2013.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I disagree. They're not "trash", they backup players that should be excelling on special teams. Instead, they were forced into starting duty because the starters were injured.

If JMJ or Mauga was next to DJ, the defense would look much different.

Maybe JMJ but not Mauga. Dude takes the WORST angles I have ever seen.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I think most of that is because the Chiefs are so bad on the OL and receiver that Reid has to be creative every week to get progress.

There needs to be 2 new OL and a legit WR added this spring.

But yes Andy does make some frustrating calls. That's for sure

The Oline play seems to have gotten into Smith's head. The past few games he is conceding sacks too early and had his mid range accuracy go down more than usual. He isn't a QB that can afford to dip in certain areas. He also isn't running and saving the Oline like he did last year.

This defense is improved though. It hasn't been perfect, but even with the injuries it's better than last year. Last year, the first half was a mirage. You can see that this year there is more of a real quality to it, even with all the replacements and young corners.

[johnny961]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

We easily should have lost to the bills if for not a miracle fumble and shitty red zone qb. There was a no call on Baldwin which leads to the go ahead TD. This team easily could be 5-7

I know I will get flamed for this but **** it. The way I see it even if we lose out the rest of the season we have still won more games than 2/3 of this board had us pegged to win iirc. We knew we had a tough schedule and several glaring weaknesses before the season ever started. These weaknesses show. Then the loss of 3 key defenders did not help matters. Frustrating I know. But the team has outperformed what a lot of us were expecting at the start of the season. I had us pegged at 9-7 before the injuries hit. This team as shitty as the last couple of losses have been has outperformed what I expected. One good draft and the right moves in free agency and you see a much better team in very short order. The griping gets old when a lot of us saw this from the beginning. Flame away.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by johnny961

I know I will get flamed for this but **** it. The way I see it even if we lose out the rest of the season we have still won more games than 2/3 of this board had us pegged to win iirc. We knew we had a tough schedule and several glaring weaknesses before the season ever started. These weaknesses show. Then the loss of 3 key defenders did not help matters. Frustrating I know. But the team has outperformed what a lot of us were expecting at the start of the season. I had us pegged at 9-7 before the injuries hit. This team as shitty as the last couple of losses have been has outperformed what I expected. One good draft and the right moves in free agency and you see a much better team in very short order. The griping gets old when a lot of us saw this from the beginning. Flame away.

There shouldn't be any flaming. This was a good post.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Mav

There shouldn't be any flaming. This was a good post.

Indeed. 10 picks, get good position. Just lose, baby.

I want to see this squad in playoffs like I want to see Rosie O' Donnell naked.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Indeed. 10 picks, get good position. Just lose, baby.

I want to see this squad in playoffs like I want to see Rosie O' Donnell naked.

That's HAWT!

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by johnny961

I know I will get flamed for this but **** it. The way I see it even if we lose out the rest of the season we have still won more games than 2/3 of this board had us pegged to win iirc. We knew we had a tough schedule and several glaring weaknesses before the season ever started. These weaknesses show. Then the loss of 3 key defenders did not help matters. Frustrating I know. But the team has outperformed what a lot of us were expecting at the start of the season. I had us pegged at 9-7 before the injuries hit. This team as shitty as the last couple of losses have been has outperformed what I expected. One good draft and the right moves in free agency and you see a much better team in very short order. The griping gets old when a lot of us saw this from the beginning. Flame away.

This is Chiefs planet. The masses who predicted 2 wins will claim 7 wins (or... As many as 11) didn't exceed expectations. The masses that last year griped about how we won games on an easy schedule because of lucky bounces and playing terrible backup qbs, will ignore that we played one of the toughest schedules, beat 5 teams in playoff contention, and got that teams uninjured, starting qb best. The same people who griped about how unvaluable the offensive line is and how critical a good secondary and defensive line are will tell you this team fell apart because our offensive line blows, nevermind that our secondary and defensive line are miles ahead of last year.

Everything above is literally the arguments that have taken place over 2 years. No exaggerating.