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Old 12-16-2014, 11:36 AM   #1
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While I'm fully aware of the fact that many guitarists and singers don't understand the difference between stage volume, PA, monitor volume, etc. and so on, this certainly wasn't the issue in the circumstances that I referenced.

There are good FOH mixers and there are bad FOH mixers. The difference between the two can be as large as the Grand Canyon.
I absolutely agree. If a band has done everything they possibly can to cooperate, then it is time to hang the engineer.

I'm not suggesting the engineer is blameless.

It is on the drummers, as well. Actually mostly on the drummer. If the drums are too loud in the beginning, the whole band doesn't stand a chance.

Bands are kind of like the QB in those situations. Raise the ability of those around them, and calmly overcome the deficiencies of the inept.

Be a pro, take it in stride, overcome and break a leg.

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Old 12-20-2014, 02:08 PM   #2
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I have never been there, but I would guess the problem with the sound has to do with an uncooperative guitar player or a prima donna singer that can't be satisfied. Possibly both.

A guitar player sees a room that size, brings his full stack and turns it up to 11. When the engineer asks him to turn it down so he can mix the whole band, the engineer becomes an asshole and the sound sucks.

When the guitar is making ears bleed, it's impossible to bring the rest of the orchestra up to that level without feedback all over everywhere.

I would bet that if that same guitar player brought his Deluxe Reverb, cranked it to where he is getting some tone, the sound engineer would wind up being a god.

The only thing you can do with a prima donna singer is kind of gross and is usually done face-first up against a brick wall.

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Old 12-16-2014, 09:20 AM   #3
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:27 AM   #4
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:25 AM   #5
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:41 PM   #6
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:52 PM   #7
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I'm going to be more interested than usual about the sound system/engineer. Not going to bug 'em, just observe.

A friend and I back in the day would pool our sound equipment, and contract sound reinforcement gigs. The biggest band we ever did was a 38 piece big band. They were all fantastic players, and just all-around swell people.

They didn't do shows very often, but we became their sound guys, so I guess we were doing okay with them.

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Old 12-16-2014, 03:19 PM   #8
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After reading today's posts, Bob Dole is concerned that his wooden box might be too loud on stage.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:23 PM   #9
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After reading today's posts, Bob Dole is concerned that his wooden box might be too loud on stage.
What I'm talking about only has to do with a rehearsed band.

At a jam session, where people are introduced for the first time and come out playing, it's "when in rome".

If it's Les Pauls to the walls, I'm all bombs away. I can hit 'em just as hard as I can soft.

Yeah, I can definitely get on an English Muffin when the topic is stage volume. A thousand pardons.

If the place is as big as it sounds, they'll probably put a mic on your box. I got you figured for someone that doesn't play your box at extreme volume levels anyhow.

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Old 12-16-2014, 05:34 PM   #10
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What I'm talking about only has to do with a rehearsed band.

At a jam session, where people are introduced for the first time and come out playing, it's "when in rome".

If it's Les Pauls to the walls, I'm all bombs away. I can hit 'em just as hard as I can soft.

Yeah, I can definitely get on an English Muffin when the topic is stage volume. A thousand pardons.

If the place is as big as it sounds, they'll probably put a mic on your box. I got you figured for someone that doesn't play your box at extreme volume levels anyhow.

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Bob Dole was planning on bringing his own mic and stand, so we should be good.

A guy playing a wooden box without his own mic would be like a guy showing up with his Axe and no amp.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:49 PM   #11
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Bob Dole was planning on bringing his own mic and stand, so we should be good.

A guy playing a wooden box without his own mic would be like a guy showing up with his Axe and no amp.
Very true.

How long will it take to drive from my house to stevieray's?

As soon as he lets me know what time to arrive, I can estimate a time to depart.

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Old 12-16-2014, 05:54 PM   #12
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Very true.

How long will it take to drive from my house to stevieray's?

As soon as he lets me know what time to arrive, I can estimate a time to depart.

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Old 12-16-2014, 08:59 PM   #13
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If the place is as big as it sounds, they'll probably put a mic on your box.

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Let's just hope the sound man doesn't forget to unmute the channel.

True story.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:05 PM   #14
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Let's just hope the sound man doesn't forget to unmute the channel.

True story.


Serious question, Dane. If SAUTO & I drove out there to buy you lunch, would you have lunch with us?

We are not actively planning on driving out there, just asking for a friend.

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Serious question, Dane. If SAUTO & I drove out there to buy you lunch, would you have lunch with us?

We are not actively planning on driving out there, just asking for a friend.

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Absolutely!

One of these days we'll all hook up.
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