The terrorists have won!

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They're a Japanese owned for-profit company operating in the US. They're not an arm of the government.

Yet another reason to target the film...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Yet another reason to target the film...

Well, IMO, it was stupid for Sony to allow the film to be made using a real-life dictator, especially when said dictator has shaky relations with the US and Japan.

Did no one at Sony stop to think about the ramifications of a film whose premise is to assassinate a real life leader? This whole mess could have been easily avoided had they instead used a caricature of Korea and its leader.

Amy Pascal should be looking for a job today, not overseeing Sony strategy.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, IMO, it was stupid for Sony to allow the film to be made using a real-life dictator, especially when said dictator has shaky relations with the US and Japan.

Ever seen Hot Shots 2? How about Team America: World Police? Is Kim Jong Un regarded in higher esteem than his dad or Saddam Hussein?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by wazu

Ever seen Hot Shots 2? How about Team America: World Police? Is Kim Jong Un regarded in higher esteem than his dad or Saddam Hussein?

Considering North Korea's reaction, I think you have your answer.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by wazu

Ever seen Hot Shots 2? How about Team America: World Police? Is Kim Jong Un regarded in higher esteem than his dad or Saddam Hussein?

No, but corporate America is stocked full of cowards, even more now than ever before.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No, but corporate America is stocked full of cowards, even more now than ever before.

1. North Korea found out about this movie and said it should not be made.
2. Sony ignored them and produced the movie.
3. North Korea threatened to respond if Sony didn't pull it from the schedule.
4. Sony ignored them and planned the release, anyway.
5. North Korea hacked into Sony's network and threatened to release info.
6. Sony, again, ignored them.
7. North Korea began releasing embarrassing emails, obtained information about every Sony employees, threatened to post five unreleased films, as well as the $300 million budgeted Bond 24 script.
8. Sony threatens a 9/11 type of response if the film was released theatrically.
9. Exhibitors decided against showing the film.
10. Sony pulled it altogether.

North Korea has followed through with every threat. Do you really believe that Sony should have ignored the threat of violence, with possible loss of life, over a dopey movie?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

North Korea has followed through with every threat. Do you really believe that Sony should have ignored the threat of violence, with possible loss of life, over a dopey movie?

Yes. But, to be fair, I was born with a working set of testicles.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Yes. But, to be fair, I was born with a working set of testicles.

Apparently, you were born without a brain.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

1. North Korea found out about this movie and said it should not be made.
2. Sony ignored them and produced the movie.
3. North Korea threatened to respond if Sony didn't pull it from the schedule.
4. Sony ignored them and planned the release, anyway.
5. North Korea hacked into Sony's network and threatened to release info.
6. Sony, again, ignored them.
7. North Korea began releasing embarrassing emails, obtained information about every Sony employees, threatened to post five unreleased films, as well as the $300 million budgeted Bond 24 script.
8. Sony threatens a 9/11 type of response if the film was released theatrically.
9. Exhibitors decided against showing the film.
10. Sony pulled it altogether.

North Korea has followed through with every threat. Do you really believe that Sony should have ignored the threat of violence, with possible loss of life, over a dopey movie?

I just don't buy that NK has the ability to do a 9/11 style attack

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I just don't buy that NK has the ability to do a 9/11 style attack

I do believe they have the ability to hire people to open fire in movie theater such as the Chinese Theater or any theater in major city.

The risk for Sony was far too great. What if there was bloodshed over a dopey movie? That would be the end for Sony, it's employees and shareholders.

It's an entertainment company, not a militia or army.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

1. North Korea found out about this movie and said it should not be made.
2. Sony ignored them and produced the movie.
3. North Korea threatened to respond if Sony didn't pull it from the schedule.
4. Sony ignored them and planned the release, anyway.
5. North Korea hacked into Sony's network and threatened to release info.
6. Sony, again, ignored them.
7. North Korea began releasing embarrassing emails, obtained information about every Sony employees, threatened to post five unreleased films, as well as the $300 million budgeted Bond 24 script.
8. Sony threatens a 9/11 type of response if the film was released theatrically.
9. Exhibitors decided against showing the film.
10. Sony pulled it altogether.

North Korea has followed through with every threat. Do you really believe that Sony should have ignored the threat of violence, with possible loss of life, over a dopey movie?

I presume you meant NK instead of Sony on Item 8.

There's also a massive difference between hacking and actually committing an act of war against the United States.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Donger

There's also a massive difference between hacking and actually committing an act of war against the United States.

I have zero belief that they would carry anything physical out on U.S. soil. If I didn't have better things to do I would have been fine going to see the movie myself at it's opening in spite of the threats, because they are about as meaningful to me as Kim Jong Un saying he is going to nuke L.A.

I think they were trying to use fear to scare the American people into not going to see the movie opening, thus damaging Sony's ability to make money off of it. Ironically the drama surrounding this has probably increased the film's money-making potential 100-fold.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

1. North Korea found out about this movie and said it should not be made.
2. Sony ignored them and produced the movie.

North Korea has followed through with every threat. Do you really believe that Sony should have ignored the threat of violence, with possible loss of life, over a dopey movie?

Well, they didn't follow through on the threats to hurt SPE employees or their families. Which seems fairly relevant as it's the only other threat that was based on committing violent acts on American soil.

Please sign your name to object the false of the company at the email address below if you don’t want to suffer damage. If you don’t, not only you but your family will be in danger.

[go bo]

Originally Posted by wazu

Ever seen Hot Shots 2? How about Team America: World Police? Is Kim Jong Un regarded in higher esteem than his dad or Saddam Hussein?

they didn't yet have the capability to hack sony or whoever made team america and no the father and the urchin lunatic are both state sponsered gods...

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, IMO, it was stupid for Sony to allow the film to be made using a real-life dictator, especially when said dictator has shaky relations with the US and Japan.

Did no one at Sony stop to think about the ramifications of a film whose premise is to assassinate a real life leader? This whole mess could have been easily avoided had they instead used a caricature of Korea and its leader.

Amy Pascal should be looking for a job today, not overseeing Sony strategy.

How did Parker and Stone get away with it? There were another couple satires using saddem and gaddafi, if memory serves correct