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Old 05-14-2014, 10:53 AM  
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Robert Orci takes over Star Trek 3
Interesting choice. A ton of writing and producing credits, but never directed anything.



http://variety.com/2014/film/news/ro...-3-1201180140/



After weeks of rumblings that Roberto Orci was the frontrunner, sources have told Variety that Skydance and Paramount have indeed tapped Orci to direct Paramount and Skydance’s “Star Trek 3.”

Orci is currently writing the story with J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay and had been campaigning to replace J.J. Abrams as director for some time. Abrams is busy with directing the next installment of the “Star Wars” franchise and will only be producing this pic.

Par, Skydance and his reps had no comment.

Plot details are unknown, but cast members including Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto are expected to return. Abrams will produce along with his producing partner Bryan Burke and Skydance’s David Ellison.

The news comes after Orci and longtime writing partner Alex Kurtzman decided to go their separate ways on future filmmaking endeavors (although their TV production company is staying intact). Sources had told Variety that both were looking to direct more pics and that going solo would be in the best interest of both parties.
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Old 12-27-2014, 05:36 PM   #46
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Worse than V? That's a tall mountain to climb to get to that level of suck.
It's really not. At least that had cool characters in it.

I'm not emotionally involved with any of this fraud crew masquerading as the real McCoys....so to speak.

Hey maybe Spock could felch Uhura this time!
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This is going to be the worst Star Trek movie ever.
With Orci yea.
I think they hired Lin because he's shown he can turn a franchise around, works well with ensembles and brings it in on time and within budget
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I'm guessing it goes even more popcorn and cgi now, so the 'more shit blowing up!' crowd may get what they want, but people looking for less blockbuster action movie and more science fiction may not have a lot to look forward to. Time will tell.
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I'm guessing it goes even more popcorn and cgi now, so the 'more shit blowing up!' crowd may get what they want, but people looking for less blockbuster action movie and more science fiction may not have a lot to look forward to. Time will tell.
I hope Nimoy and Shatner do not dignify this film with their presence.
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I'm guessing it goes even more popcorn and cgi now, so the 'more shit blowing up!' crowd may get what they want, but people looking for less blockbuster action movie and more science fiction may not have a lot to look forward to. Time will tell.
Perhaps.

It's a business. The problem is that Traditional Trek is a niche audience. In order to justify the bigger budgets they have to expand the audience
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Perhaps.

It's a business. The problem is that Traditional Trek is a niche audience. In order to justify the bigger budgets they have to expand the audience
Then don't spend so much money on dumb CGI.

The original cast movies made plenty of money.
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What's the best case scenario for this film if they do force it out by 2016? Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm intrigued by Lin directing this thing.
It's hard to say, especially since they haven't announced a writer. But I doubt they'll even get a rough draft in before March and it'll need several re-writes before filming.

I would imagine that a July shoot is their target, which would give them about a year for filming, re-shoots and Post. But man, that seems rushed without a script, unless they have their new concept in place.
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Then don't spend so much money on dumb CGI.

The original cast movies made plenty of money.
The ones in the 80s did, but as they moved into the 90s and 2000s it was diminishing returns.
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The original cast movies made plenty of money.
The only film to gross more than $100 million was Star Trek 4.

I wouldn't say that they made "plenty" of money. Paramount was only concerned with jumping into the Sci Fi game after seeing the success of "Star Wars", which of course, Star Trek never even got close to seeing.

The latest Star Trek movie was saved by foreign income. The domestic income barely covered production costs and the marketing was more than $50 million.

Paramount need to be very cautious moving forward or they'll end up with a big loser on their hands, which is something that studio really can't afford.
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I hope Nimoy and Shatner do not dignify this film with their presence.


Do you really think that Shatner, of all people, would reject the chance at playing Kirk one last time on the big screen?
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Do you really think that Shatner, of all people, would reject the chance at playing Kirk one last time on the big screen?
Probably not.

I'm just saying I would hope he doesn't. It would feel cheap and fake to me.

I saw Kirk die and I made my peace with it. RIP.
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The ones in the 80s did, but as they moved into the 90s and 2000s it was diminishing returns.
That's because the TNG films tried too hard to be action films. They got further and further away from what made Star Trek...Star Trek.

Budget/domestic gross for I-VI:

35/82
11/78
16/76
24/109
30/52
27/74

Paramount made a lot of money on those films and that doesn't include worldwide gross. The original actually grossed 139 million worldwide.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Star-Trek
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Probably not.

I'm just saying I would hope he doesn't. It would feel cheap and fake to me.

I saw Kirk die and I made my peace with it. RIP.
I thought it was horrible. So did Shatner, so much so, that he brought Kirk back to life in a subsequent novel.

Let's face it: Star Trek's film history isn't the best. Khan, arguably the Whales, 6 and First Contact were all good to great films but everything else has been a big giant "meh".

If the next movie flops, Paramount will effectively kill the Star Trek brand for another decade, so they had better take their time, get it right and not worry about the 50th anniversary date.

The problem is, Paramount usually gets things wrong.
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Oh and one other thing: As well as Justin Lin did with F&F, he's bounced from project to project to project over the last several years, which IMO, is not a "good" indicator for Star Trek.
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Oh and one other thing: As well as Justin Lin did with F&F, he's bounced from project to project to project over the last several years, which IMO, is not a "good" indicator for Star Trek.
Can you just go area and buy Paramount so they get it right? Pls and thx. Kbye
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