Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs

[cmh6476]

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

[Discuss Thrower]

And Alex probably isn't anywhere near Trent's yards per attempt or per completion.

[Dayze]

Trent passed my eye test. Alex has not.
or Casesel, which I thought was a turd 1/2 through year 2. I don't need stats to tell me when/if a QB blows. (not directed at you OP...just stating it in general)

[Hammock Parties]

2002 Trent Green: 1st in YPA, 5th in TDs, 9th in YPG. Firmly a top 10 QB.

2014 Alex Smith: 24th in YPA, 19th in TDs, 22nd in YPG. Firmly a bottom third QB.

You are incorrect.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by cmh6476

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

Not as much risk (INTs), not as much reward (TDs).. but that's no surprise with Smith.

Interesting comparison though.

Let's have a look at the starting OL for Trent in 2002...

LT - Willie Roaf - 11 time pro-bowl player
LG - Brian Waters - 6 time pro-bowler
C - Casey Wiegmann - 1 time pro-bowler and all around solid
RG - Will Shields - 12 time pro-bowler
RT - John Tait - remember him to be very solid, no?

... shall we look at the 2014 line? lol... no.. don't think that will be necessary.

[Hammock Parties]

Perhaps we could compare Alex Smith to Steve DeBerg next. I bet his stats look even better!

[WhiteWhale]

This comparison will not end well.

KC had the top scoring offense and the 4th most yardage in 2002. KC was 16th and 25 this season in those categories.

KC had the 11th most passing yards in the NFL in 2002.

KC was ranked 29th this season.

Passing production has gone up league wide a lot. A relative comparison to other teams is the best measurement, and he falls way short.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Count Alex's Losses

Perhaps we could compare Alex Smith to Steve DeBerg next. I bet his stats look even better!

It would be a more realistic comparison... a mediocre QB being carried by a good defense and running game while routinely throwing less than 200 yards.

[cmh6476]

I guess the other point of this too is that what we saw the first two years of Trent Green in KC (relatively same age as Alex) looked a lot different than the next few years for him. Can we hope for similar improvement from Alex, even if the ceiling isn't going to be Green?

[notorious]

Old NFL vs. New NFL

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Not as much risk (INTs), not as much reward (TDs).. but that's no surprise with Smith.

Interesting comparison though.

Let's have a look at the starting OL for Trent in 2002...

LT - Willie Roaf - 11 time pro-bowl player
LG - Brian Waters - 6 time pro-bowler
C - Casey Wiegmann - 1 time pro-bowler and all around solid
RG - Will Shields - 12 time pro-bowler
RT - John Tait - remember him to be very solid, no?

... shall we look at the 2014 line? lol... no.. don't think that will be necessary.

Throw the defenses in there as a comparison as well.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

This comparison will not end well.

KC had the top scoring offense and the 4th most yardage in 2002. KC was 16th and 25 this season in those categories.

KC had the 11th most passing yards in the NFL in 2002.

KC was ranked 29th this season.

Passing production has gone up league wide a lot. A relative comparison to other teams is the best measurement, and he falls way short.

Yup. This is like bragging that you bought a dvd player for 250. Yardage inflation. Only a handful of 4000 yard passers 10 years ago.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by notorious

Old NFL vs. New NFL

This.

But Trent did have about the best offensive line ever

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

This.

But Trent did have about the best offensive line ever

And the worst defense in football.

[Iowanian]

If Smith throws 8 more TD's.....the Chiefs have a game this weekend, maybe a bye.