Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Throw the defenses in there as a comparison as well.

This would actually hurt your cause, wouldn't it? meaning, worse defense = offense has to do more = will have more production

I don't know.. too lazy to see how good or bad your D was back then..

None of it really matters. Thread is as useless as all the vag bleeding about Smith is.. doesn't matter.. Smith will be your QB until he isn't. Not my decision to make or yours.

Going to be a long, redundant offseason of futile whining...

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

This would actually hurt your cause, wouldn't it? meaning, worse defense = offense has to do more = will have more production

I don't know.. too lazy to see how good or bad your D was back then..

None of it really matters. Thread is as useless as all the vag bleeding about Smith is.. doesn't matter.. Smith will be your QB until he isn't. Not my decision to make or yours.

Going to be a long, redundant offseason of futile whining...

Even Mav has finally hopped off Alice Smiff's dick, but here you are still making excuses. Keep ****ing that chicken.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Even Mav has finally hopped off Alice Smiff's dick, but here you are still making excuses. Keep ****ing that chicken.

I'm not going to even talk about Mav at this point... though I'm sure he could figure out what I'd say.. but I'll leave that alone.

I'll stand strong until Alex shows me what he can do (again) with a decent OL and WR corps. If KC upgrades there, and he still plays small ball, 1 read, 3 yd per pass? Then, I will be done for sure. Not even worried about that. I have zero doubt that Alex will play well if KC can do what needs to be done.

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

This would actually hurt your cause, wouldn't it? meaning, worse defense = offense has to do more = will have more production

I don't know.. too lazy to see how good or bad your D was back then..

None of it really matters. Thread is as useless as all the vag bleeding about Smith is.. doesn't matter.. Smith will be your QB until he isn't. Not my decision to make or yours.

Going to be a long, redundant offseason of futile whining...

Why are you here? What pleasure do you derive from your activity at Chiefsplanet? I ask this not to be mean-spirited but out of genuine curiosity. You have taken a position that is opposite the majority and you have already stated your position thousands of times. What do you get out of this?

We already know that you like Alex Smith. We already know that you are not a Chiefs fan. What else is left for you here but incessant arguing with the majority who don't like Alex and are Chiefs fans?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Why are you here? What pleasure do you derive from your activity at Chiefsplanet? I ask this not to be mean-spirited but out of genuine curiosity. You have taken a position that is opposite the majority and you have already stated your position thousands of times. What do you get out of this?

We already know that you like Alex Smith. We already know that you are not a Chiefs fan. What else is left for you here but incessant arguing with the majority who don't like Alex and are Chiefs fans?

I enjoy talking all aspects of Chiefs football.. and do so in a civil manner in many threads.

You could just as easily ask the many haters what they get out of pouring out the same hateful posts to light the fuse. We all know where they stand.. right? yet they proceed to whine and pout every day. So I often respond to their fits of rage and sorrow.

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I enjoy talking all aspects of Chiefs football.. and do so in a civil manner in many threads.

You could just as easily ask the many haters what they get out of pouring out the same hateful posts to light the fuse. We all know where they stand.. right? yet they proceed to whine and pout every day. So I often respond to their fits of rage and sorrow.

I don't need to ask them anything. Theirs (and mine) is a frustration that has been escalating for decades and is boiling over with rage at an organization that makes the same damn mistakes over and over and seems somehow content, proud even, of their mediocre accomplishments. I've largely given up on this franchise so I'm less affected but I don't need any explanation from Chiefs fans that are still watching this shitshow.

BTW, you are not always civil and I can't say I've seen you discussing much about the Chiefs that doesn't directly or indirectly relate to Alex. You've nearly 7,000 posts here in the last two years and the only thing that stands out is your devotion to Alex. Are you sure you enjoy talking all aspects of the Chiefs? I think you may be deceiving yourself. That is not my perception, in any case.

Just my 2 cents. Carry on with whatever it is you are doing.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Why are you here? What pleasure do you derive from your activity at Chiefsplanet? I ask this not to be mean-spirited but out of genuine curiosity. You have taken a position that is opposite the majority and you have already stated your position thousands of times. What do you get out of this?

We already know that you like Alex Smith. We already know that you are not a Chiefs fan. What else is left for you here but incessant arguing with the majority who don't like Alex and are Chiefs fans?

He's here for the shirtless pics of Alex in the Pics Forum.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Pablo

He's here for the shirtless pics of Alex in the Pics Forum.

Oh cool! where?!? where?!?

< runs off to find >

[Easy 6]

Keg makes an excellent point about Bowe in the quote from OTWP... the guy has been anything but a diva about the situation this year, how many #1's in the same position could anyone honestly say would handle it so well?

I got down on him early, but the longer it dragged on, the easier it was to recognize the what the real problem was... Alex Smith.

When Daniel can damn near get him a touchdown in his first game action of the year, it tells me all I really need to know.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Why are you here? What pleasure do you derive from your activity at Chiefsplanet? I ask this not to be mean-spirited but out of genuine curiosity. You have taken a position that is opposite the majority and you have already stated your position thousands of times. What do you get out of this?

We already know that you like Alex Smith. We already know that you are not a Chiefs fan. What else is left for you here but incessant arguing with the majority who don't like Alex and are Chiefs fans?

At least he's dealing in reality. This vaunted majority you cite here, which is just a reeruned vocal minority stuck in narratives of the past, spends their time beating their meat to dreams of everything on the entire team being different, from ownership to management to coaching, but above all at quarterback.

You can't even discuss improving the line and receivers because of their naked speculation that either 'Alex needs the best line and receivers EVER ASSEMBLED to succeed' or 'we could have the best line and receivers ever and Alex would squander it all.'

Alex is STAYING, Reid is STAYING. Dorsey is STAYING. Clark is STAYING. Changes are coming at receiver and on the line. You can choose to pout about these things, or to insist that they doom the organization, . . . or you can accept reality.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

At least he's dealing in reality. This vaunted majority you cite here, which is just a reeruned vocal minority stuck in narratives of the past, spends their time beating their meat to dreams of everything on the entire team being different, from ownership to management to coaching, but above all at quarterback.

You can't even discuss improving the line and receivers because of their naked speculation that either 'Alex needs the best line and receivers EVER ASSEMBLED to succeed' or 'we could have the best line and receivers ever and Alex would squander it all.'

Alex is STAYING, Reid is STAYING. Dorsey is STAYING. Clark is STAYING. Changes are coming at receiver and on the line. You can choose to pout about these things, or to insist that they doom the organization, . . . or you can accept reality.

No one has said that Smith, Reid, Dorsey, or Hunt are going. That's as dipshitted a strawman as you'll ever see.

No is saying the Chiefs are set at WR or OL. In fact, everyone acknowledges that the guard and tackle play on this team was horrendous and that the WRs leave something to be desired, but if you actually look at a lot of other teams, the Chiefs are no worse than middle of the pack in skill position players. Charles is a top three back, Kelce is a top 10 TE, DAT is the false bill of goods McCluster was supposed to be and a Pro Bowl specialist in year one, and Dwayne Bowe is, at worst, a top level WR #2. And for Bowe supposedly needing so many boots in the ass he sure seemed to do fine his first two years here.

It's also not naked speculation to suggest that Smith needs better and likely won't succeed even with better. He had a defense with two prime HOFers , three additional Pro Bowlers (including record setting performances by age from a pass rusher), the best OL in football, the most athletically gifted TE in the history of football, a top 5-7 back, and he couldn't beat a 9-7 Giants team at home that scored 17 points in regulation.

You can't horde talent on teams like the 80s and you can't hide your quarterback. So yeah, people are going to want something different at quarterback because...gasp... you need something better at QB to win in the NFL.

Marty Schottenheimer's career is not aspirational.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No one has said that Smith, Reid, Dorsey, or Hunt are going. That's as dipshitted a strawman as you'll ever see.

No is saying the Chiefs are set at WR or OL. In fact, everyone acknowledges that the guard and tackle play on this team was horrendous and that the WRs leave something to be desired, but if you actually look at a lot of other teams, the Chiefs are no worse than middle of the pack in skill position players. Charles is a top three back, Kelce is a top 10 TE, DAT is the false bill of goods McCluster was supposed to be and a Pro Bowl specialist in year one, and Dwayne Bowe is, at worst, a top level WR #2. And for Bowe supposedly needing so many boots in the ass he sure seemed to do fine his first two years here.

It's also not naked speculation to suggest that Smith needs better and likely won't succeed even with better. He had a defense with two prime HOFers , three additional Pro Bowlers (including record setting performances by age from a pass rusher), the best OL in football, the most athletically gifted TE in the history of football, a top 5-7 back, and he couldn't beat a 9-7 Giants team at home that scored 17 points in regulation.

You can't horde talent on teams like the 80s and you can't hide your quarterback. So yeah, people are going to want something different at quarterback because...gasp... you need something better at QB to win in the NFL.

Marty Schottenheimer's career is not aspirational.

Hi Hamas - Do you think DAT will have a comparable career to Percy Harvin? Maybe through his first 6 or 7 yrs - or however long PH has been in the NFL.

I'm excited about this kid and think him and Kelce will wind up tremendous. I'm not good at guessing or recognizing talent as most of you are, as I tried to believe in Linkenbach a few weeks ago - but srsly - how do you feel about DAT's future - maybe expand on him a little more, here.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Hi Hamas - Do you think DAT will have a comparable career to Percy Harvin? Maybe through his first 6 or 7 yrs - or however long PH has been in the NFL.

I'm excited about this kid and think him and Kelce will wind up tremendous. I'm not good at guessing or recognizing talent as most of you are, as I tried to believe in Linkenbach a few weeks ago - but srsly - how do you feel about DAT's future - maybe expand on him a little more, here.

I think he's Dave Meggett minus the SNR gene.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think he's Dave Meggett minus the SNR gene.

Is that good?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think he's Dave Meggett minus the SNR gene.

Wrong, Megget?

****IN BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You and Clay seem to be the only guys not in full on lust with this kid... what the hell is your problem with this rookie? To me, he's one of those extremely rare guys where every time they even come close to getting the ball its worthy of a "the entire stadium audibly held its breath" moment.

Returns punts for touchdowns.
He's runs jet sweeps like a mfer.
Already learning how to go deep for a catch.