Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs

[cmh6476]

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Duh. They're the same ****ing guy.

You're funny.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

That playoff won where he out duped Drew Brees a couple years ago was pretty tantalizing.

Oh yes, that one good game where he won a playoff game after 8 years in the league. That was the turning point in Alex's career, especially after he's followed that up with un-Alex like performances.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by jd1020

What has Alex ever done in his career to justify passing on guys that were graded as top 10 picks in the draft at the QB position?

ridiculous

lmao

I'd love a franchise QB as much as anyone ... but you ****ers are so stupid ... it's hard to even talk Chiefs football on this board

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Alex Smith is in the 12-18 range.

He absolutely is in the same tier as Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford and Andy Dalton. Absolutely.

Is that something that I'm content with? **** no. I think Alex Smith is boring. I was bored watching Alex Smith never take a single risk.

But Joe Flacco and Matt Stafford behind that offensive line? Yeah. 4 wins. Maybe. It would have been awful.

all truth here...

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

ridiculous

lmao

I'd love a franchise QB as much as anyone ... but you ****ers are so stupid ... it's hard to even talk Chiefs football on this board

Good job answering the question.

Must be nice living in a linear world where situations never change based on circumstances.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by dls6501

Hootie, it is obvious that you and I disagree immensely on Alex.....but can you please elaborate on why you feel that a QB with a Superbowl ring, a QB who has never missed the playoffs in his entire career while compiling better stats than Alex in the process, and a 26 year old QB who has averaged 28 touchdowns and almost 4,800 passing yards a year for the past 4 years are on the same tier as Alex?

Seriously. I am not trying to be a dick. I just seriously cannot even begin to fathom your opinion.

because I watch the games

Stafford is not a good QB. He's not. Same with Joe Flacco. They are as flawed, if not more so, than Alex Smith. Just in completely different ways.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Oh yes, that one good game where he won a playoff game after 8 years in the league. That was the turning point in Alex's career, especially after he's followed that up with un-Alex like performances.

That's one more playoff win than Trent Green ever had in his entire career, spanning 5 teams (San Diego, Wash, St L, KC, and Miami)

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

because I watch the games

Stafford is not a good QB. He's not. Same with Joe Flacco. They are as flawed, if not more so, than Alex Smith. Just in completely different ways.

Yet with all those flaws, they are still able to accomplish more than Alex has.

Since you watch the games.....Did you watch the 2012 playoffs by chance? You know where Flacco had a 4 game playoff stretch that dwarfed any 4 game stretch Alex has ever had in his career?

[Hootie]

The object of playing is to win the game.

This team would have won less games with our personnel with Joe Flacco or Matt Stafford at QB. There is no way in hell those guys would have survived the season.

I don't know who I'd take out of the three. None, ideally. I can't fathom how people still think Joe Flacco is an elite NFL QB. Someone told me they'd take Flacco over Manning in the playoffs the other day.

It's impossible to talk football on this board. When does baseball start?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

That's one more playoff win than Trent Green ever had in his entire career, spanning 5 teams (San Diego, Wash, St L, KC, and Miami)

What does Trent Green have to do with passing on someone like Bridgewater or Carr?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You're funny.

It's funny because it's the truth.

[Easy 6]

I'm with Hootie, for better or worse here... Smith is so limited physically and in many ways, mentally, it seems.

But if you put some of these other cannon armed brickheads behind this same line?... yeah, the outcome is atleast just as bad and probably even worse... thats not sticking up for smiff, just common sense.

[O.city]

They're gonna draft jameis this year

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by jd1020

What does Trent Green have to do with passing on someone like Bridgewater or Carr?

Reread the thread for context, my friend.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I'm with Hootie, for better or worse here... Smith is so limited physically and in some many ways, mentally, it seems.

But if you put some of these other cannon armed brickheads behind this same line?... yeah, the outcome is atleast just as bad and probably even worse... thats not sticking up for smiff, just common sense.

It's also common sense to think that if the Chiefs didn't trade for Smith and used those picks for something else that this OL might not be the same as it is today.