Kid Destroys 'Dollar Store'

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

Look again after the edit. I posted the link incorrectly. It's already been done and will teach kids and worthless parents there will be a better consequence to bad actions than probation.

I see but I'm not going to watch it.

What I was getting at is that there's not much of a plausible scenario in which this type of behavior is eradicated unless it's cut out at the source. The only feasible way that'll happen is through proper parenting, IMO. Fear of punishment shouldn't really be the ultimate factor in why a person decides to do good. You've got to get them at a young age and instill good values, morals and judgment.

The kid in the video is obviously lacking that. Police and Child Protective Service intervention is probably the last thing he needs. Some love, attention and guidance would likely go a long way as well as, potentially, some professional therapy or counseling.

But where you came in is just not something that can likely happen. Legally speaking, you can't discipline someone else's kids (which is likely why no one stepped in), you can't really punish parents for doing a shitty job, and you certainly can't make them punish their own kids. It's just not the way the world works.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

The kid in the video is obviously lacking that. Police and Child Protective Service intervention is probably the last thing he needs. Some love, attention and guidance would likely go a long way as well as, potentially, some professional therapy or counseling.

I disagree that professional interference would be bad, what if that kids (and kids like him) parents are incapable of or unwilling to, provide that attention, love, and guidance?

Not saying thats the answer for every scenario, but theres no doubt that a lot of parents out there have no right to be one, are incapable of being one... that could very well be this kids problem, it would help explain what a kid his age is doing in a store unsupervised God knows how far from home.

[Chiefaholic]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I disagree that professional interference would be bad, what if that kids (and kids like him) parents are incapable of or unwilling to, provide that attention, love, and guidance?

Not saying thats the answer for every scenario, but theres no doubt that a lot of parents out there have no right to be one, are incapable of being one... that could very well be this kids problem, it would help explain what a kid his age is doing in a store unsupervised God knows how far from home.

[Chiefaholic]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I see but I'm not going to watch it.

What I was getting at is that there's not much of a plausible scenario in which this type of behavior is eradicated unless it's cut out at the source. The only feasible way that'll happen is through proper parenting, IMO. Fear of punishment shouldn't really be the ultimate factor in why a person decides to do good. You've got to get them at a young age and instill good values, morals and judgment.

The kid in the video is obviously lacking that. Police and Child Protective Service intervention is probably the last thing he needs. Some love, attention and guidance would likely go a long way as well as, potentially, some professional therapy or counseling.

But where you came in is just not something that can likely happen. Legally speaking, you can't discipline someone else's kids (which is likely why no one stepped in), you can't really punish parents for doing a shitty job, and you certainly can't make them punish their own kids. It's just not the way the world works.

Life without consequence leads to irresponsible people who are a burden to society. Had either of my children even attempted to pull that stunt, I would have spanked their ass right there in the store and (owner permitting) forced the kid to put everything back on the shelf, pay for broken items, then apologize.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I disagree that professional interference would be bad, what if that kids (and kids like him) parents are incapable of or unwilling to, provide that attention, love, and guidance?



Not saying thats the answer for every scenario, but theres no doubt that a lot of parents out there have no right to be one, are incapable of being one... that could very well be this kids problem, it would help explain what a kid his age is doing in a store unsupervised God knows how far from home.

This may be correct. Some people just aren't fit to be parents.

I'm just always hesitant to throw children in the state system. I'm sure there are tons of success stories but just as many that don't work out. In the system, like at home, for many of these kids they just because a case number or they're moved around from home to home or they're constantly probed by adopting families. I couldn't imagine the letdown of meeting prospective adopting families only to be told they decided to go with a different child or something like that.

Once again, in this situation you might be right. I just wish it could be taken care of at home instead.

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

Life without consequence leads to irresponsible people who are a burden to society. Had either of my children even attempted to pull that stunt, I would have spanked their ass right there in the store and (owner permitting) forced the kid to put everything back on the shelf, pay for broken items, then apologize.

We actually agree here. I'm just saying the plan of action you initially proposed just isn't something that could actually go down in our society. You'd have no power, as just a random bystander, to do anything besides call the police.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

This may be correct. Some people just aren't fit to be parents.

I'm just always hesitant to throw children in the state system. I'm sure there are tons of success stories but just as many that don't work out. In the system, like at home, for many of these kids they just because a case number or they're moved around from home to home or they're constantly probed by adopting families. I couldn't imagine the letdown of meeting prospective adopting families only to be told they decided to go with a different child or something like that.

Once again, in this situation you might be right. I just wish it could be taken care of at home instead.

I agree, and while I have no personal experience with state systems for kids like this, its certainly not hard to imagine some of them being cold and impersonal, doing atleast as much harm as good... especially in city areas where the system can become overwhelmed by sheer numbers.

But yeah, in many cases its almost certainly criminal to leave them with their parents.