Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18

[Discuss Thrower]

Clayton on show seems to hint that SEA would be open to non-exclusive Tag for RW in 2016- seems surprising but SEA will study all avenues

— DAVIS HSU (@DavisHsuSeattle) June 20, 2015

Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

Pole cumming.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

who in the ****ing **** cares about how many yards per game he averages throwing the ball?

Carson Palmer threw for 4200 yards on the 2012 Oakland Raiders because he was so ****ing bad for 3 quarters he padded his stats in a ton of meaningless 4th quarters

You do realize that the odds of him taking a different team to the Super Bowl, let alone winning it, are about zero, right?

Additionally, Marshawn Lynch is the cog that puts his offense in motion. No one knows if Wilson can be a consistent 250-300 yard passer, which will likely be required, on a different team and offensive scheme.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

there drafts are LITERALLY no better than the Chiefs drafts since Aaron Rodgers ...

I used to point this out to Mecca, Dane and 'Hamas all of the time back in the drafturbator era.

They literally have as many misses as anybody. Difference is, they have Aaron Rodgers.

You can keep pretending Seattle wins because of their defense and Marshawn Lynch ... but how many games was Marshawn Lynch winning Buffalo? How many games did Larry Johnson win us?

This website has LITERALLY spent the last 9 years of my life (join date 2006) BEGGING for a QB because, AND IT'S TRUE, if you want to consistently win your division and put yourself in the position to be a champion, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FRANCHISE QB. Plain and simple.

...and now suddenly Seattle wins despite their QB. Maybe not even despite, but they win because they have a great defense and a really good RB.

So apparently, Schottenheimer was right. No?

It is so ****ing ridiculous to discredit Russell Wilson and not recognize how amazing he has been and how he has LED his team to a Super Bowl title, a Super Bowl runner up, and another playoff win + two LEGENDARY performances in losses. 6-2. Three years in.

THE CHIEFS HAVEN'T WON A ****ING PLAYOFF GAME SINCE I WAS 8 (1993).

...

AND MORE PEOPLE ON THIS WEBSITE WOULD RATHER HAVE TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS THAN RUSSELL WILSON.

omg

You just ... can't ... be ...

my head might explode

This might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on this board.

To say our drafting has been ion par with Green Bay's is absolutely ignorant.
The Chiefs have never had a good WR corps.
The Packers are a WR factory.

Our OL has been shit for the better part of a decade. The Packers have built a very good OL predominantly on mid round picks.

Yeah we draft RB's and pass rushers well. They drafted Clay Matthews and Eddie Lacy, and while they aren't JC and Houston, they are still damn good players.

It's not even close.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You do realize that the odds of him taking a different team to the Super Bowl, let alone winning it, are about zero, right?

His odds of taking any of the other 31 teams in the league to the SB are at a minimum as good as Smith's chances of taking the Chiefs to the championship game.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You do realize that the odds of him taking a different team to the Super Bowl, let alone winning it, are about zero, right?

I assume you're basing this off the fact that Peyton and Kurt are the only two other guys to take two teams to a Super Bowl, right? Well, duh. No team let's a franchise QB get away. So clearly, there aren't enough circumstances in history where a 26 year old Super Bowl winning QB's gets traded to another team to test this ridiculous theory.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Additionally, Marshawn Lynch is the cog that puts his offense in motion. No one knows if Wilson can be a consistent 250-300 yard passer, which will likely be required, on a different team and offensive scheme.

If you really think that Marshawn Lynch is the cog that puts his offense in motion, then, clearly when you told me earlier you watch Seahawks games you were lying.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on this board.

To say our drafting has been ion par with Green Bay's is absolutely ignorant.
The Chiefs have never had a good WR corps.
The Packers are a WR factory.

Our OL has been shit for the better part of a decade. The Packers have built a very good OL predominantly on mid round picks.

Yeah we draft RB's and pass rushers well. They drafted Clay Matthews and Eddie Lacy, and while they aren't JC and Houston, they are still damn good players.

It's not even close.

The only reason their drafts are better than ours is because of Aaron Rodgers. That is it. The Packers are a 'WR factory' because Aaron Rodgers makes everyone look amazing. He has pinpoint accuracy. How has Greg Jennings fared in Minnesota? You cannot reference their WR's as some sort of "omg the Packers are a model franchise!."

They've also CONSISTENTLY ****ed up drafting OL to protect Aaron Rodgers in the 1st round. They've missed on several DB's and DL, as well. They still haven't found a quality TE, either. Eddie Lacy is ok, not special, and they missed on Brandon Jackson in the 2nd round before that.

It's funny to me that these "model franchises" people always envy seem to also always have that franchise QB. Strange. I know.

Seriously. I've done it 20 times on this board. I will go break down every single Chiefs/Packers draft since Aaron Rodgers and show you that they are no better at drafting than Kansas City and we're working on our 3rd regime over those years.

If Pioli tripped into Aaron Rodgers, Pioli would be revered around here and still in charge.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

His odds of taking any of the other 31 teams in the league to the SB are at a minimum as good as Smith's chances of taking the Chiefs to the championship game.

No

[Hootie]

FURTHERMORE, Aaron Rodgers' excuse for losing to Kaepernick and being pedestrian in the playoffs since his Super Bowl is that the Packers haven't surrounded him with enough talent.

Some model franchise, they are.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No

Really good rebuttal, Dane.

Seriously. Your theory on this matter is that only Peyton and Kurt have taken 2 different franchises to a Super Bowl, isn't it?

Isn't it?



That's your empirical evidence that Russell can't lead 2 different franchises to a Super Bowl

You know ...

Cuz franchises let John Elway's and Troy Aikman's and Brett Favre's get away

God Dane, sometimes you are just ... stupid.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I assume you're basing this off the fact that Peyton and Kurt are the only two other guys to take two teams to a Super Bowl, right? Well, duh. No team let's a franchise QB get away. So clearly, there aren't enough circumstances in history where a 26 year old Super Bowl winning QB's gets traded to another team to test this ridiculous theory.

No team? Drew Brees wasn't a Franchise QB in his prime? How many Super Bowls has San Diego won since letting him go?

If Seattle felt that Wilson was a no-brainer, Franchise QB, as you obviously believe, why are they slagging him in the press? Who does that to a Franchise QB?

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

If you really think that Marshawn Lynch is the cog that puts his offense in motion, then, clearly when you told me earlier you watch Seahawks games you were lying.

You need to stop drinking when watching football game.

Lynch accounted for nearly 1,800 yards from scrimmage in 2012, nearly 1,600 in 2013 and almost 1,700 in 14 games last year.

But yeah, Wilson's 199 yards a game drove their offense.

[Hootie]

San Diego didn't let "Franchise QB" Drew Brees go. San Diego let good QB Drew Brees go who suffered a career threatening injury in week 17 and had spent a top 5 pick 2 years prior as THE BUST Drew Brees' replacement.

Cherry picking that example just shows how incredibly stupid you have been in regards to football talk.

And you've spent countless posts on this board telling us how busy you are with family, work, and that you just don't have any time etc etc etc

and now you're trying to tell me you watch more Seattle than me and you watch more Russell Wilson than me

which is a flat out lie and we both know it ... but you're so idiotically stubborn you'll never admit that you don't, in reality, watch much Seattle

you have Sunday Ticket Dane ... that's what you say ... you don't sit there and say, "gee, Pete Carroll! Let's watch Seattle!"

****ing Liar.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

San Diego didn't let "Franchise QB" Drew Brees go. San Diego let good QB Drew Brees go who suffered a career threatening injury in week 17 and had spent a top 5 pick 2 years prior as THE BUST Drew Brees' replacement.

Cherry picking that example just shows how incredibly stupid you have been in regards to football talk.

And you've spent countless posts on this board telling us how busy you are with family, work, and that you just don't have any time etc etc etc

and now you're trying to tell me you watch more Seattle than me and you watch more Russell Wilson than me

which is a flat out lie and we both know it ... but you're so idiotically stubborn you'll never admit that you don't, in reality, watch much Seattle

you have Sunday Ticket Dane ... that's what you say ... you don't sit there and say, "gee, Pete Carroll! Let's watch Seattle!"

****ing Liar.

**** you, Hootie. You don't know ****ing dick about me or how I spend my Sundays.

You're ****ing dumbass, punkass, loser, rapist, drunk.

Enjoy the fantastic life you've carved out for yourself, ****head.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

San Diego didn't let "Franchise QB" Drew Brees go. San Diego let good QB Drew Brees go who suffered a career threatening injury in week 17 and had spent a top 5 pick 2 years prior as THE BUST Drew Brees' replacement.

Cherry picking that example just shows how incredibly stupid you have been in regards to football talk.

And you've spent countless posts on this board telling us how busy you are with family, work, and that you just don't have any time etc etc etc

and now you're trying to tell me you watch more Seattle than me and you watch more Russell Wilson than me

which is a flat out lie and we both know it ... but you're so idiotically stubborn you'll never admit that you don't, in reality, watch much Seattle

you have Sunday Ticket Dane ... that's what you say ... you don't sit there and say, "gee, Pete Carroll! Let's watch Seattle!"

****ing Liar.

Damon Huard

[Hootie]

Thanks, Dane! Enjoy walking your puppy next to Miley Cyrus' house while you play with your kids and watch every NFL game at the same time while making time for your lavish career and lifestyle. How do you squeeze in all of that college football scouting on top of that? Man. Sleep is overrated, I guess.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Damon Huard

Oh, the Damon Huard myth again.

I implore you to find a quote where I said Damon Huard was a "franchise QB", or even a good QB. I said, in 2006, Damon Huard gave us a better chance to win than Trent Green. QBR, since released and backdated, has 100% backed me up. It's not even opinion anymore. It's fact.

In 2006, Green started 9 games and Huard started 8.

QBR for Green:

24
24
46
95
9
15
42
70
48

QBR for Huard:

42
99
44
46
55
93
82
11

Anything 50 to 60 is average, and above 60 is good. Over 70 is AMAZING.

Like Hootie 1.0 said at the time, Damon Huard was better for the Chiefs in 2006 than Trent Green. The fact I have to put clown shoes on you so often where you think you need to cherry pick an instance in history where I was right and 95% of the board was wrong is hilarious to me.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Gee, 1 whole 1st round pick! Man! Big spender! I bet you clip coupons and hold up the line at Walgreens, too.

HOOTIE! SUPER MADDEN GM!