"Alex Smith makes your defense better"

[mcaj22]

Alex loses in the same two scenarios

1) When a gunslinger gets the green light to just keep throwing it. No matter if the guy throws 3 picks, he's getting the ball back and if he can score 4 touchdowns in 2 minutes, Alex Smith isn't beating him. Whenever Alex gets in a gunslinger duel with a QB, we rely way to much on the defense to bail him out, and if the other team has our defenses number that week, Alex has NO chance. I can actually only think of 1 gunslinger game Alex has won himself and that was against Drew Brees when he was with the 49ers. When the Lucks, Big Bens, Flaccos of the world turn it on with their big arms, Alex usually gets smoked.

2) When a really shitty team plays Alex Smith football against Alex Smith. A crappy game manager QB with a run game and the score is 13-7 and our defense plays a good game, and all we need is Alex to get us 1 more score and he can't. He usually loses these. His play style is his own kryptonite against him. Evidence of that are last years slopfests against the Titans, Raiders and Cardinals. When you need him to get you 7 against a shit team that's controlling clock he can't do it because both teams are putting on long, slow, sloppy dink and dunk drives and he doesn't have many chances.

This is why he beats a lot of good teams that are fast paced; Chargers, Patriots, Eagles, Cowboys, etc. They put on drives with the pass/no huddle but they aren't long throws, so the clock stops if your defense generates an incomplete. Thus Alex gets the ball back so he can put on his long drive and it can balance out to a medium gameflow. But he can't hang with big armed QBs that can turn into fire at any point in the game and score in 30 seconds, and he can't beat shitty teams that take too long running the ball.

His pace is right in the middle, where the game flows nearly perfectly.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Alex loses in the same two scenarios

1) When a gunslinger gets the green light to just keep throwing it. No matter if the guy throws 3 picks, he's getting the ball back and if he can score 4 touchdowns in 2 minutes, Alex Smith isn't beating him. Whenever Alex gets in a gunslinger duel with a QB, we rely way to much on the defense to bail him out, and if the other team has our defenses number that week, Alex has NO chance. I can actually only think of 1 gunslinger game Alex has won himself and that was against Drew Brees when he was with the 49ers. When the Lucks, Big Bens, Flaccos of the world turn it on with their big arms, Alex usually gets smoked.

2) When a really shitty team plays Alex Smith football against Alex Smith. A crappy game manager QB with a run game and the score is 13-7 and our defense plays a good game, and all we need is Alex to get us 1 more score and he can't. He usually loses these. His play style is his own kryptonite against him. Evidence of that are last years slopfests against the Titans, Raiders and Cardinals. When you need him to get you 7 against a shit team that's controlling clock he can't do it because both teams are putting on long, slow, sloppy dink and dunk drives and he doesn't have many chances.

This is why he beats a lot of good teams that are fast paced; Chargers, Patriots, Eagles, Cowboys, etc. They put on drives with the pass/no huddle but they aren't long throws, so the clock stops if your defense generates an incomplete. Thus Alex gets the ball back so he can put on his long drive and it can balance out to a medium gameflow. But he can't hang with big armed QBs that can turn into fire at any point in the game and score in 30 seconds, and he can't beat shitty teams that take too long running the ball.

His pace is right in the middle, where the game flows nearly perfectly.

Yes and no. The reason why the game management approach works is it keeps good QBs off the field and messes with their rhythm.

Using the word "smoked" is wrong. Alex Smith almost never gets smoked. The team usually hangs within a touchdown. As I've said before, this approach would work fine if Alex Smith knew how to close games. He doesn't. We rarely get blown out. We have lost way too many games in the final minutes on a drive where Alex Smith could have gone for the tie or the lead.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yes and no. The reason why the game management approach works is it keeps good QBs off the field and messes with their rhythm.

Using the word "smoked" is wrong. Alex Smith almost never gets smoked. The team usually hangs within a touchdown. As I've said before, this approach would work fine if Alex Smith knew how to close games. He doesn't. We rarely get blown out. We have lost way too many games in the final minutes on a drive where Alex Smith could have gone for the tie or the lead.

What was that Andrew Luck did to him in the playoffs two years ago? That's the definition of smoked. Alex couldn't generate a touchdown when he needed to and Luck was slinging the football at will, no matter if it was an interception or a touchdown, he kept throwing all over and scoring quick and Alex wasn't generating anything quick enough to counter.

The gunslinger beats him more times than not, it's because Alex lacks a big arm.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

What was that Andrew Luck did to him in the playoffs two years ago? That's the definition of smoked. Alex couldn't generate a touchdown when he needed to and Luck was slinging the football at will, no matter if it was an interception or a touchdown, he kept throwing all over and scoring quick and Alex wasn't generating anything quick enough to counter.

The gunslinger beats him more times than not, it's because Alex lacks a big arm.

Defense and other players on offense played no roll n this scenario.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

What was that Andrew Luck did to him in the playoffs two years ago? That's the definition of smoked. Alex couldn't generate a touchdown when he needed to and Luck was slinging the football at will, no matter if it was an interception or a touchdown, he kept throwing all over and scoring quick and Alex wasn't generating anything quick enough to counter.

The gunslinger beats him more times than not, it's because Alex lacks a big arm.

That is an absolute load of crap and I've debunked this many times.

I'm critical as hell of Alex Smith. But Alex played an unbelievable game. If you actually look at Smith's drive charts in the second half, it isn't nearly as bad as Chiefs fans want to claim. The playcalling was atrocious, the defense was giving up scores in record time, and Bowe dropped a critical third down catch leading to a 3 and out. Even on the last throw, Smith made a good enough throw to set up a game-winning FG. Lots of games to criticize Smith for. This one aien't it.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

What was that Andrew Luck did to him in the playoffs two years ago? That's the definition of smoked. Alex couldn't generate a touchdown when he needed to and Luck was slinging the football at will, no matter if it was an interception or a touchdown, he kept throwing all over and scoring quick and Alex wasn't generating anything quick enough to counter.

The gunslinger beats him more times than not, it's because Alex lacks a big arm.

Alex put up 40+ points with no Jamaal and also lost Knile Davis and Donnie Avery shortly after. The defense already had a hobbled set of pass rushers and lost their best corner to injury early in the 3rd quarter (when Luck went crazy) On top of that, they had that miracle bounce where Luck fumbled and the ball bounced right back to him and he scored with it.

To blame that loss on Alex Smith is just flat out disregarding facts.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

What was that Andrew Luck did to him in the playoffs two years ago? That's the definition of smoked. Alex couldn't generate a touchdown when he needed to and Luck was slinging the football at will, no matter if it was an interception or a touchdown, he kept throwing all over and scoring quick and Alex wasn't generating anything quick enough to counter.

The gunslinger beats him more times than not, it's because Alex lacks a big arm.

We can talk about all of his miserable moments, of which there are many... but the stone cold fact is that Smith balled the **** out in that game and no amount of revisionist history can change it.

You're off base here.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

We can talk about all of his miserable moments, of which there are many... but the stone cold fact is that Smith balled the **** out in that game and no amount of revisionist history can change it.

He balled out for a half.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

He balled out for a half.

Dogshit.

That team was paper thin all year and...

The pass rush was extremely hobbled + Kendrick Lewis was still starting.

He lost damn near every offensive skill player that mattered by that second half and STILL managed 10 second half points on the road... you can say whatever else about him you want to, but that performance was full of guts and balls.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Dogshit.

Yes, this is dogshit.

The only reason we scored a TD at all in the second half was the defense setting up a short field.



You give Luck a chance to get back in the game and he will. Alex turned back into a pumpkin and proved he's not the guy that day.