What do the Chiefs do w/ the extra cap space?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Earl Thomas would have been the best regardless.

Your opinion, which I disagree with, and which can not be proven either way.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by milkman

Your opinion, which I disagree with, and which can not be proven either way.

So you think Berry is better than Earl Thomas and Earl Thomas is only good/better because of coaching/scheme?

He was good in college and was a Texas prospect no different than Derrick Johnson or Jamaal Charles. And people think both of those guys are some of the best at their position. If you take off the Chiefs homer glasses, the guy is the better player.

When Earl Thomas first got to Seattle they were TERRIBLE and he carried that crappy defense his rookie season. He was playing next to a washed up Lawyer Milloy, an old Marcus Trufant, a bunch of other nobodies. Lofa Tatupu, Aaron Curry and David Hawthorne were the LBers. Absolute bums.

He was literally the only good player on defense for them that year.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

So you think Berry is better than Earl Thomas and Earl Thomas is only good/better because of coaching/scheme?

He was good in college and was a Texas prospect no different than Derrick Johnson or Jamaal Charles. And people think both of those guys are some of the best at their position. If you take off the Chiefs homer glasses, the guy is the better player.

When Earl Thomas first got to Seattle they were TERRIBLE and he carried that crappy defense his rookie season. He was playing next to a washed up Lawyer Milloy, an old Marcus Trufant, a bunch of other nobodies. Lofa Tatupu, Aaron Curry and David Hawthorne were the LBers. Absolute bums.

He was literally the only good player on defense for them that year.

No. I am not saying that Earl Thomas is only good because of coaching scheme.

I am saying that Berry, in a role that allowed him to take advantage of his ability and talent would be viewed as equal, at the least.

I would also say that if their roles were reversed, there is no way that Earl Thomas performs at the evel that Berry has.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by milkman

No. I am not saying that Earl Thomas is only good because of coaching scheme.

I am saying that Berry, in a role that allowed him to take advantage of his ability and talent would be viewed as equal, at the least.

I would also say that if their roles were reversed, there is no way that Earl Thomas performs at the evel that Berry has.

so you don't think if the Chiefs had Earl Thomas instead of Kendrick Lewis and a Scrub SS alongside him and Seattle at ???? FS + Eric Berry during those crappy Chiefs years that Thomas wouldnt be better?

I still think he would be better even here.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

so you don't think if the Chiefs had Earl Thomas instead of Kendrick Lewis and a Scrub SS alongside him and Seattle at ???? FS + Eric Berry during those crappy Chiefs years that Thomas wouldnt be better?

I still think he would be better even here.

No. I'm saying that if you dropped Earl Thomas in the box, he would be a bust.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

so you don't think if the Chiefs had Earl Thomas instead of Kendrick Lewis and a Scrub SS alongside him and Seattle at ???? FS + Eric Berry during those crappy Chiefs years that Thomas wouldnt be better?

I still think he would be better even here.

And what if the Chiefs would have just put Berry at FS like they should have?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And what if the Chiefs would have just put Berry at FS like they should have?

Herm was right. The day after we drafted him (maybe it was a couple days) I tweeted Herm where he should play and Herm tweeted me back that Berry should be a FS.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And what if the Chiefs would have just put Berry at FS like they should have?

The Kiffins ruined that not the Chiefs.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

The Kiffins ruined that not the Chiefs.

A SS in safety in a cover 2 is far different from a box safety, though even a cover 2 scheme isn't the best use of his talent.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

The Kiffins ruined that not the Chiefs.

Oh bullshit. One ****ing year in college doesn't immediately require the team that drafts you to keep you there. Romeo was a ****ing idiot.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

The Kiffins ruined that not the Chiefs.

Monte started the misuse and Crennel continued it.

Ancient coaches trying to emphasize stopping the run first and foremost...like the NFL is still based on strong running games that open up the pass.