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Old 10-01-2015, 04:46 PM   #1
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Old 10-01-2015, 04:56 PM   #2
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Old 10-01-2015, 04:56 PM   #3
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Okay, Sutton is a ****ing idiot.

From no subbing, to not rolling coverage over to help a struggling CB, to giving up 35 MOTHER ****ING POINT IN 25 MINUTES.
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:00 PM   #4
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I really don't know what he's going to do about the slot now.

Berry and Parker seem like the best options given skill set, but I'm not sure they won't get torched by the smaller, quicker guys.
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:01 PM   #5
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To his credit, Trent Dilfer said this three years ago. The Chiefs are an arrogant defense that doesn't adjust. This really isn't new information. Just watch the games.
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:04 PM   #6
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Seven three and outs on offense. 15 percent in third down. Look how many extra possessions the defense is having to defend...
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:15 PM   #7
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Seven three and outs on offense. 15 percent in third down. Look how many extra possessions the defense is having to defend...
This! Of course your D is gonna get tired when the offense is constantly getting 3 and outs
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:21 PM   #8
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Seven three and outs on offense. 15 percent in third down. Look how many extra possessions the defense is having to defend...
In general, this is true. And this team has been guilty of it.

However, people are using it as an excuse this week and it is total BS. The team had 10 days off to rest, and Rodgers came right out and ran over the defense. They averaged like 7 yards a carry in the first quarter. Monday night had zip to do with the defense being on the field too long. They just got manhandled. People are taking the blame off them just to bag on Alex Smith, who doesn't need any help at this point. The defense played poorly. Period. They aren't playing like a championship defense.
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It's not just Sutton. The coaching staff makes no adjustments on offense either, based on what's working or what isn't. They just stick to the plan, even when it's foundering.
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:17 PM   #10
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It's not just Sutton. The coaching staff makes no adjustments on offense either, based on what's working or what isn't. They just stick to the plan, even when it's foundering.
This, sadly.
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:13 PM   #11
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It's not just Sutton. The coaching staff makes no adjustments on offense either, based on what's working or what isn't. They just stick to the plan, even when it's foundering.
Yep, so what hope do Chiefs fan really have?

Sean Smith can come back from suspension. The Oline can gain experience and gel. Young players can get better.

But ........ Coaches never really change, Chiefs fans should know all about that.

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Reid isn't going to change, isn't going to learn how to manage the clock or stick to the run or adjust.

Sutton adjusted from year 1 to year 2 but as yet to adjust during the season, let alone adjust IN a game.


People are crying about Alex Smith ... coaching problems are worse.


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Old 10-01-2015, 07:54 PM   #12
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But ........ Coaches never really change, Chiefs fans should know all about that.

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People are crying about Alex Smith ... coaching problems are worse.
It's not like Alex Smith has done well with what he's been given so far this year, but the coaching staff is not putting anyone in a position to succeed, least of all him.

It's not an excuse for him, he's responsible for his own play, it's just a statement of fact. They aren't putting Alex Smith in a position to succeed. They aren't putting Jamaal Charles in a position to succeed. They aren't putting anyone in a position to succeed with their stubbornness and their unwillingness to react to the game situation.

I don't know where we go from here. Reid isn't getting fired. Alex Smith is probably not going anywhere this year, unless he completely tanks.

All we can hope for is for the team to gel, for Reid to open up the offense, or for Reid or Hunt to wake up and say that someone else needs to call the plays.
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:59 PM   #13
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It's not like Alex Smith has done well with what he's been given so far this year, but the coaching staff is not putting anyone in a position to succeed, least of all him.

It's not an excuse for him, he's responsible for his own play, it's just a statement of fact. They aren't putting Alex Smith in a position to succeed. They aren't putting Jamaal Charles in a position to succeed. They aren't putting anyone in a position to succeed with their stubbornness and their unwillingness to react to the game situation.

I don't know where we go from here. Reid isn't getting fired. Alex Smith is probably not going anywhere this year, unless he completely tanks.

All we can hope for is for the team to gel, for Reid to open up the offense, or for Reid or Hunt to wake up and say that someone else needs to call the plays.
I know this is a Bob Sutton thread, but I want to comment on your second paragraph. We saw the same Alex Smith pretty much all of last season. We saw the same Alex Smith in this pre-season. And, we have all seen Chase Daniel come in... especially this pre-season... and ignite this very same offense. Offensive line looks better with Daniel. Receivers look better with Daniel. Whole damn team looked better with Daniel.

Chase freaking Daniel. Let that soak in for a minute!

Time to move on from Alex Smith. And yes, I was on the Smith bandwagon. Got off mid to late last year.
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It's not just Sutton. The coaching staff makes no adjustments on offense either, based on what's working or what isn't. They just stick to the plan, even when it's foundering.
I don't know about that. They tried running a lot in the first quarter, but abandoned it when it wasn't working. I think that is the wrong adjustment - you need to keep trying and eventually the D will wear down and you will start making some gains - but it is an adjustment.
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Did Sutton throw for only 50 yards midway through the 3rd quarter? He might be a part of the problem but #11 IS the problem.
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