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Old 10-12-2015, 08:15 PM   #1
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Reid isn't going anywhere. It's on him for smith being what he's been and is, but if you actually put a competent qb in his system, I don't think it would be bad keeping him.
Yeah, because a different QB would make so much more out of throwing bubble screens 6 yards behind the LOS...
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:18 PM   #2
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Yeah, because a different QB would make so much more out of throwing bubble screens 6 yards behind the LOS...
If we had a qb with any downfield accuracy or threat, it wouldn't matter.

Reid's offense has had guys wide open all over, per usual, our qb misses them
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:21 PM   #3
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If we had a qb with any downfield accuracy or threat, it wouldn't matter.

Reid's offense has had guys wide open all over, per usual, our qb misses them
How does downfield accuracy and threat change the play calling, or calling back to back timeouts, or 3 negative pass plays from 1st and goal?

No accuracy or threat is going to fix Andy no matter how many excuses are made for him.
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:25 PM   #4
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How does downfield accuracy and threat change the play calling, or calling back to back timeouts, or 3 negative pass plays from 1st and goal?

No accuracy or threat is going to fix Andy no matter how many excuses are made for him.
You're the same guy that suggested taking out all of the short routes in the offense, no?

They scheme to what they've got. It's a complete trickle down, teams play defense so aggressively at the line because of our qb.

I'm starting to agree with dane, that people here don't watch much other nfl. Every team throws slants and bubble screens, quite often. It's not a Reid thing.
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:15 PM   #5
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Yeah, because a different QB would make so much more out of throwing bubble screens 6 yards behind the LOS...
Could you please consider finding a way to decrease your signature's size? I'm about ready to turn the damn things off entirely.
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**** McDermott.

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**** McDermott.

Really? REALLY?
Yeah, I didn't get this one
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:46 PM   #8
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**** McDermott.

Really? REALLY?
I don't see the issue. Crow is right. Very good defense in Carolina. Good coaching pedigree. Young but experienced. I don't have an opinion either way. Not understanding the strong reaction.
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:28 PM   #10
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Reid certainly has his flaws, I'm not arguing that.

But hes generally had a good offense, and gets the most out of his qbs. Smith has gone the opposite.
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:34 PM   #11
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Reid certainly has his flaws, I'm not arguing that.

But hes generally had a good offense, and gets the most out of his qbs. Smith has gone the opposite.
Because he isn't this QB guru that he is portrayed to be... plus his talent evaluation at the QB position is seriously lacking in his judgment of Smith. he shouldn't get a free pass just because people are so desperate to make Smith the fall guy..
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Because he isn't this QB guru that he is portrayed to be... plus his talent evaluation at the QB position is seriously lacking in his judgment of Smith. he shouldn't get a free pass just because people are so desperate to make Smith the fall guy..
He's always extracted value from his qbs and gotten them to play at the highest level they can, nothing more nothing less.

Save for Alex smith.

The vast majority of throws in the nfl are around the line of scrimmage. This isn't some crazy and Reid phenomenon, it just doesn't work because the defense doesn't have to respect the deep or intermediate areas of the field.

When watching other teams offenses, it's normal to see 7 defensive players on the normal tv sideline feed. When it's an Alex smith offense, you see 9.
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He's always extracted value from his qbs and gotten them to play at the highest level they can, nothing more nothing less.

Save for Alex smith.

The vast majority of throws in the nfl are around the line of scrimmage. This isn't some crazy and Reid phenomenon, it just doesn't work because the defense doesn't have to respect the deep or intermediate areas of the field.

When watching other teams offenses, it's normal to see 7 defensive players on the normal tv sideline feed. When it's an Alex smith offense, you see 9.
Agree, smith is regressing under Reid and Reid is failing to extract value out of his highly paid handpicked, two draft picks QB.

Reid is failing with smith. He won't make a change and will sink with his qb...
He's not a qb guru. Never has been. Never will be. he doesn't put his team in position to achieve success without a borderline HOF QB and a historically awesome DC.
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Agree, smith is regressing under Reid and Reid is failing to extract value out of his highly paid handpicked, two draft picks QB.

Reid is failing with smith. He won't make a change and will sink with his qb...
He's not a qb guru. Never has been. Never will be. he doesn't put his team in position to achieve success without a borderline HOF QB and a historically awesome DC.
Ok, what's a qb guru then? He's always gotten this most out of his qbs, save for Alex smith.

McNabb is borderline hall material?
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Because he isn't this QB guru that he is portrayed to be... plus his talent evaluation at the QB position is seriously lacking in his judgment of Smith. he shouldn't get a free pass just because people are so desperate to make Smith the fall guy..
And again, he has flaws. He's terrible in game time situation.

But rebuilding the coaching staff from the ground up isn't always the answer.

I like what the Bengals have done. Just keep adding talent and developing it.
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