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Old 11-03-2015, 04:01 PM   #1
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.. just like I pointed out six months ago..
Agreed. I did the same.
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:52 PM   #2
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woohoo! straight out bitching for another year and a half!
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:56 PM   #3
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woohoo! straight out bitching for another year and a half!
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Something has to change for us to win games.

No change = same results...
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Old 11-03-2015, 04:10 PM   #4
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Old 11-03-2015, 04:31 PM   #5
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A few years ago, I strongly pushed for working for comp picks. A great move because we were really tight on payroll and we'd have a lot of huge contracts going off the books. Doing that this offseason would be stupid. It's a shame but I could see the chiefs doing virtually nothing this offseason in order to salvage comp picks for guys like Sean Smith and chase Daniel and knile. I really hope there wasn't a true offer on the table because it really feels like to me we held on to our chips to salvage an imaginary 2015 playoff run.
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:45 PM   #6
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A few years ago, I strongly pushed for working for comp picks. A great move because we were really tight on payroll and we'd have a lot of huge contracts going off the books. Doing that this offseason would be stupid. It's a shame but I could see the chiefs doing virtually nothing this offseason in order to salvage comp picks for guys like Sean Smith and chase Daniel and knile. I really hope there wasn't a true offer on the table because it really feels like to me we held on to our chips to salvage an imaginary 2015 playoff run.
At this point, Dorsey and the Chiefs would be foolish to let Sean Smith walk. The defense has improved substantially the past few weeks and Smith has been a playmaker.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:08 PM   #7
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At this point, Dorsey and the Chiefs would be foolish to let Sean Smith walk. The defense has improved substantially the past few weeks and Smith has been a playmaker.
The Chiefs will have some interesting choices to make. They have Sean Smith, Berry, Poe, Howard coming up for contract this offseason. DJ and Hali... I think we lose them.

I previously supported overloading on defense with Alex Smith at QB. But if you want a guy like Aaron Murray or any of the projected first round QBs to succeed , do you start sacrificing some defensive chips so you can invest in offensive talent like an OL?
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:53 PM   #8
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Jets traded a 2nd round pick and 3 JAG's to move up from 17 to 5. We can trade up without selling the farm, especially if there are 3 QB's and one is still there after the top 5
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Old 11-03-2015, 11:03 PM   #9
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Jets traded a 2nd round pick and 3 JAG's to move up from 17 to 5. We can trade up without selling the farm, especially if there are 3 QB's and one is still there after the top 5
Our biggest problems are at Linebacker and OL. We don't need to tank. And receivers can be found all over the first round if that's where we end up going.
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Old 11-04-2015, 06:01 PM   #10
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Our biggest problems are at Linebacker and OL. We don't need to tank. And receivers can be found all over the first round if that's where we end up going.
I'm not sure that Coaching isn't our biggest problem.

I want impact in the 1st round, not a certain position.


LB and OL should be the 2nd and 3rd round
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Old 11-04-2015, 06:56 PM   #11
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I'm not sure that Coaching isn't our biggest problem.

I want impact in the 1st round, not a certain position.


LB and OL should be the 2nd and 3rd round
The Chiefs aren't going anywhere with Alex Smith. I'm usually for BPA. But not in an instance like this where we've completely ignored the QB position for years. But if the Chiefs have no choice but to seek his replacement. If the Chiefs think any of the QBs in this draft are better than Murray or Bray, it's a chance definitely worth taking.

I would draft a high round QB every single year until you get your guy. There is zero excuse not to have a true competitive option to ALex Smith by next year.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:14 PM   #12
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Chase
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Do we re-sign them in 2016? If the answer is no then good chance we backed off of trade chips so we can make a run in 2015. I'll let that sink in for a little bit.

The alternative is that we get comp picks out of these guys. But that only works if we choose not to bring in any new free agents next season and we'd have to wait an extra year to get any benefit there. And that assumes that Hali or DJ don't retire.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:19 PM   #13
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Chase
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Hali
Knile

Do we re-sign them in 2016? If the answer is no then good chance we backed off of trade chips so we can make a run in 2015. I'll let that sink in for a little bit.

The alternative is that we get comp picks out of these guys. But that only works if we choose not to bring in any new free agents next season and we'd have to wait an extra year to get any benefit there. And that assumes that Hali or DJ don't retire.
The Chiefs will have $40 million in cap space, without restructuring anyone, in 2016. They'll have plenty of room to sign whomever they want.

Knile Davis can hit the road, Hali will be worth half of 2015 ($3 million) IF he doesn't retire and DJ's not going anywhere and will play for less next year as well.

It's pretty silly to worry about such things in early November.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:29 PM   #14
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The Chiefs will have $40 million in cap space, without restructuring anyone, in 2016. They'll have plenty of room to sign whomever they want.

Knile Davis can hit the road, Hali will be worth half of 2015 ($3 million) IF he doesn't retire and DJ's not going anywhere and will play for less next year as well.

It's pretty silly to worry about such things in early November.
Surely not the 3rd round draft steal Knile Davis.
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Old 11-03-2015, 08:03 PM   #15
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The Chiefs will have $40 million in cap space, without restructuring anyone, in 2016. They'll have plenty of room to sign whomever they want.

Knile Davis can hit the road, Hali will be worth half of 2015 ($3 million) IF he doesn't retire and DJ's not going anywhere and will play for less next year as well.

It's pretty silly to worry about such things in early November.
I don't think it's silly to worry about things in November when we're discussing getting draft picks out of players who may not be here next year. Knile and Chase are classic examples. Even if you get a 7th for them it's better than letting them go for free. Again, you can get comp picks for these guys, but only if we decide not to bring in any new free agents in.
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