Clark Hunt could care less about local fans-states as much

[Valiant]

People just need start putting their wallet where their mouth is and quit spending money.

actually all the fans of each club needs to.

quit going to games and buying gear. Cities also need to tell them to get bent when they want new stadiums.

especially when you have franchises like the chiefs. An owner who likes money over championships.


personally i would love to see a new league take them on. Start out with 8 to 10 teams and a minor league system.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Valiant

People just need start putting their wallet where their mouth is and quit spending money.

actually all the fans of each club needs to.

quit going to games and buying gear. Cities also need to tell them to get bent when they want new stadiums.

especially when you have franchises like the chiefs. An owner who likes money over championships.


personally i would love to see a new league take them on. Start out with 8 to 10 teams and a minor league system.

What is the weather like in fantasyland? Is it near the ocean?

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by Valiant

People just need start putting their wallet where their mouth is and quit spending money.

actually all the fans of each club needs to.

quit going to games and buying gear. Cities also need to tell them to get bent when they want new stadiums.

especially when you have franchises like the chiefs. An owner who likes money over championships.


personally i would love to see a new league take them on. Start out with 8 to 10 teams and a minor league system.

You're missing one big piece of the revenue puzzle...the TV contracts. If you want to try to 'boycott' every NFL sponsor, good luck.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

That's why I'm thinking this needs to be positioned as an incentive for fans to buy tickets... not sure how you would do it without making it look clumsy or come off as a "buy tickets or else", but seriously... they have to figure out a way to make the games worth a damn if they're going to do this more.

I just don't know what the end game is, having a team in London? Why? I don't get the point.

What have the ticket sales been like game over game the last few years? Are they buying tickets because it's a rarity or is there actually a burning desire to see more games?

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

What have the ticket sales been like game over game the last few years? Are they buying tickets because it's a rarity or is there actually a burning desire to see more games?

Tickets sales have been terrific for every game, even when its between two shitty teams. I do not believe London can support a local team, but I do think there's interest in the NFL as an occasional novelty a few times a year with many different teams barnstorming through. The international series is being expanded because its been very successful.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

That's why I'm thinking this needs to be positioned as an incentive for fans to buy tickets... not sure how you would do it without making it look clumsy or come off as a "buy tickets or else", but seriously... they have to figure out a way to make the games worth a damn if they're going to do this more.

I just don't know what the end game is, having a team in London? Why? I don't get the point.

What have the ticket sales been like game over game the last few years? Are they buying tickets because it's a rarity or is there actually a burning desire to see more games?

The tickets sell like hotcackes over there so far.

I actually don't think Goodell wants a team over there. I think even he can see that it's not workable.

I think the league makes plenty of money off these games, and eventually he hopes to have a TV deal in the UK that's worth some money. That's what Roger bleeds... green.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Cochise

The tickets sell like hotcackes over there so far.

I actually don't think Goodell wants a team over there. I think even he can see that it's not workable.

I think the league makes plenty of money off these games, and eventually he hopes to have a TV deal in the UK that's worth some money. That's what Roger bleeds... green.

I bet they are making more money playing a game overseas then they do here at this point or they wouldn't be doing it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Cochise

The tickets sell like hotcackes over there so far.

I actually don't think Goodell wants a team over there. I think even he can see that it's not workable.

I think the league makes plenty of money off these games, and eventually he hopes to have a TV deal in the UK that's worth some money. That's what Roger bleeds... green.

Roger doesn't give a shit about "workable." He's been ruining the game for years at the expense of money. If he finds a franchise in Europe that's more lucrative than a domestic market, he'll do it. And this is why everybody hates him.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

I would argue there is a huge benefit to having your city name promoted internationally. Giving up a home game every other year or so is no big deal.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

I strongly disagree with this. The cities are not going to do a damned thing, stadiums will continue to be built and renovated, and even if we get to the point where EVERY team plays a game overseas and EVERY team loses a home game once every two years, fans will adjust and get used to it.

[Chromatic]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

Oliver tackles this issue pretty well, imo. It's pretty far out there on what these guys get away with and how things are run.

[RealSNR]

I don't have a problem giving up away games to go to London. Do it all you want

[Toby Waller]

the wealthy person did what the wealthy person wanted to do.
Tough tooty on you

[TLO]

As long as the Royals don't have to give up any games, I don't give a shit.