Did y'all catch Squirmin Herman's spot on ESPN about Shady?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And again, I don't know how you can claim he wrecked the franchise when he basically moved us from the oldest team in football with a lot of expensive dead weight contracts to the youngest team in football with $57m in cap space and the #3 pick. We were set up for a big offseason in 2009 which pioli squandered.

You see 2 wins as a reflection of what he could do. I see 2 wins as impressive restraint to not trade meaningless wins in a losing season at the expense of saving money for the future, developing our young talent, and securing a better draft position.

We set ourselves for a huge offseason in 2009. I don't know how Herm and Kuharich would have handled it. Perhaps they duff it. But that to me would have been the mark of Herms legacy, not the three years prior where he was trying to clean up vermeils messes. But he never got that chance which I'm okay with.

Fat Scott left a 2-14 team with significant salary cap space and the #1 overall pick for Dorsey/Reid.

Using your logic with Herm, do you give the same praise to Fat Scott's legacy?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Fat Scott left a 2-14 team with significant salary cap space and the #1 overall pick for Dorsey/Reid.

Using your logic with Herm, do you give the same praise to Fat Scott's legacy?

No. Pioli inherited a really damn good situation. He had an immaculate cap situation where Herm was given a giant credit card bill. He had a young roster to work with which has developmental upside, but also are easier to cut and move around. And he had four years and two top ten picks to do it. Sure, he had plenty of roster gaps to fill, but he had nothing whatsoever standing in his way from doing it.

Pioli had a significantly cleaner situation and one more year to build the team. At least Herm took a bad situation and left it clean. Pioli took a clean situation and barely advanced the puck while racking up some debt along the way.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

At least Herm took a bad situation and left it clean. Pioli took a clean situation and barely advanced the puck while racking up some debt along the way.

Herm didn't make it clean.

He saddled the next regime with a terrible QB situation that led to Matt Cassel.

He also saddled the next regime with a defensive line full of draft busts.