Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is online now
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $-2089692
*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

LINK TO 2016-18 PAYROLL INFO COURTESY OF ROYALS REVIEW

The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

Duncan’s Top 20 for 2016:
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Last edited by duncan_idaho; 11-17-2015 at 09:49 AM..
Posts: 22,436
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2015, 05:55 PM   #1771
lewdog lewdog is offline
Mod Team
 
lewdog's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Valley of the hot as ****
Casino cash: $-1548100
Spikes up to Lawrie on the first slide of the year.
Posts: 46,351
lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2015, 05:55 PM   #1772
WilliamTheIrish WilliamTheIrish is offline
Champion Golfer Of The Year
 
WilliamTheIrish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Casino cash: $2590607
Quote:
Originally Posted by petegz28 View Post
WTF is this Alex Gordon died in a car crash, shit?
#petethings

Quote:
Originally Posted by petethings
"some of us knew we weren't going very far in the playoffs... something...something...something...I'm going to bed in the 9th inning of the World Series....
Just full #petethings
Posts: 35,754
WilliamTheIrish has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2015, 05:55 PM   #1773
BigCatDaddy BigCatDaddy is offline
The Beast Inside Your Head
 
BigCatDaddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Casino cash: $-1760878
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
I don't buy the Bowden rumor. Doesn't seem legit.
Maybe. Seems like with a popular home town guy there is going to be some PR work. They can at least say they tried
Posts: 26,272
BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2015, 05:56 PM   #1774
Mother****erJones Mother****erJones is offline
Can't Use That Disney Ass Name
 
Mother****erJones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Casino cash: $10015211
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog View Post
Spikes up to Lawrie on the first slide of the year.
I seen that trade and thought oh my Royals boys will love him on the sox
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
The only people who believe Mahomes is a first rounder are desperate fans.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe View Post
McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.
Posts: 23,919
Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 07:09 AM   #1775
Anyong Bluth Anyong Bluth is offline
Deus ambulans inter homines
 
Anyong Bluth's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
Casino cash: $9439340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones View Post
Didn't he rip a muscle off the bone?
Are you talking about Gordo?

If so, no. He might have had a partial, but if it was clean tear around the groin, he wouldn't have been back this season.
__________________


Suck it, beautiful
Posts: 14,938
Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 07:25 AM   #1776
Mother****erJones Mother****erJones is offline
Can't Use That Disney Ass Name
 
Mother****erJones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Casino cash: $10015211
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth View Post
Are you talking about Gordo?

If so, no. He might have had a partial, but if it was clean tear around the groin, he wouldn't have been back this season.
Oh ok. Thought that was the issue and wondered how he came back so soon and at his age.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
The only people who believe Mahomes is a first rounder are desperate fans.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe View Post
McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.
Posts: 23,919
Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 07:29 AM   #1777
Anyong Bluth Anyong Bluth is offline
Deus ambulans inter homines
 
Anyong Bluth's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
Casino cash: $9439340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones View Post
Oh ok. Thought that was the issue and wondered how he came back so soon and at his age.
We should all be thankful - Alex the most, because a clean tear around the groin is a nightmare on a completely different level than even a nasty partial tear.
__________________


Suck it, beautiful
Posts: 14,938
Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 07:31 AM   #1778
Mother****erJones Mother****erJones is offline
Can't Use That Disney Ass Name
 
Mother****erJones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Casino cash: $10015211
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth View Post
We should all be thankful - Alex the most, because a clean tear around the groin is a nightmare on a completely different level than even a nasty partial tear.
I remember watching a game where Jake Peavy tore his lat muscle off the bone. It was rough. He just yelled and his should went limp. He couldn't move it.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
The only people who believe Mahomes is a first rounder are desperate fans.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe View Post
McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.
Posts: 23,919
Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 07:54 AM   #1779
Anyong Bluth Anyong Bluth is offline
Deus ambulans inter homines
 
Anyong Bluth's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
Casino cash: $9439340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones View Post
I remember watching a game where Jake Peavy tore his lat muscle off the bone. It was rough. He just yelled and his should went limp. He couldn't move it.
Watched a buddy tear his hamstring off the bone while waterskiing.

It just become a bunched up glob in the back of his leg. The doctor said it looked like shredded beef from all the damage. He had surgery, but he'll never regain full strength.

I was surprised to hear that once you hit your mid to late 40's, the ability to fully heal the hamstring is pretty much shot.

A full tear, they obviously secure it back with the bone, but if it's a partial, even a bad one, and you're not relatively young they won't do surgery. You pretty much just have to wait for the trauma to heal and get by with a significantly weaker leg.
__________________


Suck it, beautiful
Posts: 14,938
Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 09:27 AM   #1780
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-672950
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth View Post
Watched a buddy tear his hamstring off the bone while waterskiing.

It just become a bunched up glob in the back of his leg. The doctor said it looked like shredded beef from all the damage. He had surgery, but he'll never regain full strength.

I was surprised to hear that once you hit your mid to late 40's, the ability to fully heal the hamstring is pretty much shot.

A full tear, they obviously secure it back with the bone, but if it's a partial, even a bad one, and you're not relatively young they won't do surgery. You pretty much just have to wait for the trauma to heal and get by with a significantly weaker leg.
I slipped on ice and shredded my hamstring I looked up my injury and it said water skiing can cause it so it's possible I had the same injury as your friend...it was ****ing awful.
Posts: 115,353
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 09:31 AM   #1781
Fairplay Fairplay is offline
A certain set of skills
 
Fairplay's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: texas
Casino cash: $10026683
VARSITY
I remember that mecca I felt bad for you, is your hamstring still give you problems or is it all healed up?
Posts: 25,265
Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 09:47 AM   #1782
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $-1555266
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13 View Post
Wade Davis has now become a verb... and it's being used during football analysis. The NFL disabled embedding so you have to click the link:

https://youtu.be/EaId7txY51I
Thanks for posting. I hate Ike Taylor far less now.
Posts: 60,001
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 02:08 PM   #1783
Anyong Bluth Anyong Bluth is offline
Deus ambulans inter homines
 
Anyong Bluth's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
Casino cash: $9439340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
I slipped on ice and shredded my hamstring I looked up my injury and it said water skiing can cause it so it's possible I had the same injury as your friend...it was ****ing awful.
My condolences. It's a Bitch to deal with while it heals. I'm dealing with a complete fracture of both my tibia and fibula - each at 2 spots! Both broken a few inches below my knee AND both broken just above my ankle. They had to put in a rod the length of the lower leg, 2 plates, and 6 screws. It happened about 4 months ago, and I've only been able to walk on a limited basis for about 6 weeks at the most.
Eventually, they say I will be back to normal without a limp. It still constantly hurts, and my balance and the amount of weight I can put on it is really shakey.
I've done a great job of regaining my full range of motion, but what worries me is in the last month it doesn't seem like I've had much improvement.

They say it usually takes over a year, but I've been diligent on what they recommend for a full and quicker recovery yet it seems to have reached a point where there it hasn't been improving week to week.

So, who knows what the timetable will be once I won't have to hobble around everywhere?
__________________


Suck it, beautiful
Posts: 14,938
Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.Anyong Bluth is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 02:22 PM   #1784
Sure-Oz Sure-Oz is offline
Stay positive, don't give up
 
Sure-Oz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2001
Casino cash: $1679383
@jcrasnick: Scott Boras has told interested teams Denard Span will be available for workouts after New Year to show he's healthy.

@jcrasnick: #Mets, #Orioles, #Royals, #SFGiants and #Padres among clubs that could fit for Span if he's recovered from September hip surgery.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
Sure-Oz could ****ing track anyone in the country via Twitter. Dude makes me scared to leave the house.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
.
Sure-Oz in this mother****er. Resident Tweet master and maligned Royals fan.
Posts: 46,310
Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.Sure-Oz wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2015, 06:04 PM   #1785
lewdog lewdog is offline
Mod Team
 
lewdog's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Valley of the hot as ****
Casino cash: $-1548100
No on fat denard span. Please no.
Posts: 46,351
lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:06 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.