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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 03-18-2016, 03:36 PM   #3751
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Chris Sale still isn't happy about the LaRoche situation.

http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/...oche-situation

Q: What’s the bigger problem?

A: Lying, plain and simple. We got bold-faced lied to by someone we’re supposed to be able to trust. You can’t come tell the players it was the coaches and tell the coaches it’s the players and then come in and say something completely different. If we’re all here to win a championship, this kind of stuff doesn’t happen. Like I said, we’re not rebelling against the rules. It has nothing to do with the rules. It’s a much deeper issue and all this negative attention around so much positivity that was here before. We were rolling. We were having a great time. You guys have seen it. The drills are crisp, everything was clicking. And it just took someone to come in here and throw a wrench in the plans.
Reminds me of when I was in Corp America... "Well it was brought to our attention you spend all day on Chiefs Planet". No, you saw me and dont want me pissed at you just some un-named employee.
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Old 03-18-2016, 03:43 PM   #3752
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Well, Chris Sale sounds like a little whiny bitch. He should feel right at home in the White Sox organization.
Hes welcome to jump ship to the Royals anytime he wishes.
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Old 03-18-2016, 03:46 PM   #3753
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Hes welcome to jump ship to the Royals anytime he wishes.
We'll trade them Christian Colon and right a wrong.
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:13 PM   #3754
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Well, Chris Sale sounds like a little whiny bitch. He should feel right at home in the White Sox organization.

He is a Whiney bitch. I knew that when I heard he went to the Royals clubhouse.
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:22 PM   #3755
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Is Sale whining about LaRouche or about management?
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:26 PM   #3756
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Is Sale whining about LaRouche or about management?
Management, specifically the VP Williams.
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:27 PM   #3757
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Well, Chris Sale sounds like a little whiny bitch. He should feel right at home in the White Sox organization.
What did he say here that makes him that?
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Old 03-18-2016, 06:55 PM   #3758
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Royals taking advantage of short right field porch in Alamodome tonight. Back to back HRs by Salvy and Orlando
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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Old 03-18-2016, 07:03 PM   #3759
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Hunter Dozier definitely passes the eye test.

He looks pure muscle
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:09 PM   #3760
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:10 PM   #3761
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:07 AM   #3763
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I loved the fire and intensity this team played with last year. The media called them flukes and one year wonders-then we came out ever better.

I hope they play like this when the season starts. They didn't take any shit from anyone.
Bought GMDMs book last year and it was a puff piece but a fun read. Looking forward to a behind the scenes tell all from this years team sometime down the road. Got to be some great stories from inside the clubhouse as all of this went down over the year.
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:09 AM   #3764
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What did he say here that makes him that?
If you strip all the bullshit away from this story and get it down to its core, it's basically a team telling a player that he can't have his kid in the clubhouse everyday. Unless there is specific language in LaRoche's contract stating that he can, and if there was he would be contesting this as a breach of contract, then all the other players, Sale included, need to shut the **** about it and play baseball.

I don't give a shit what Williams told them. Maybe there were three different versions because three different groups complained about the kid being there.
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:25 AM   #3765
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I loved the fire and intensity this team played with last year. The media called them flukes and one year wonders-then we came out ever better.

I hope they play like this when the season starts. They didn't take any shit from anyone.
What media called them flukes? Or one year wonders?
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