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Old 08-16-2016, 06:30 AM   #1
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At the moment I don't see the defense being that great. You are not a great defense in this league of routine 4000 yard passers if you can't rush the passer. I don't see where it is coming from.

As for the offense--yeah it looks improved, but although Reid is a great schemer, his play-calling is weird. Kelce needs to be a much bigger focus this season than he has been.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:09 PM   #2
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At the moment I don't see the defense being that great. You are not a great defense in this league of routine 4000 yard passers if you can't rush the passer. I don't see where it is coming from.

As for the offense--yeah it looks improved, but although Reid is a great schemer, his play-calling is weird. Kelce needs to be a much bigger focus this season than he has been.
Do some people on CP not understand that you can get a pass rush from your interior also?

Hali/Ford and any combination of Poe/Jones/Bailey/Howard is still better than what most teams have.

People are completely overreacting about Ford's pass rush. All the negative reports and the game have been about run defense. He got to get after it once in that game, and he even created pressure when he did.
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Old 08-16-2016, 06:53 PM   #3
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Do some people on CP not understand that you can get a pass rush from your interior also?

Hali/Ford and any combination of Poe/Jones/Bailey/Howard is still better than what most teams have.

People are completely overreacting about Ford's pass rush. All the negative reports and the game have been about run defense. He got to get after it once in that game, and he even created pressure when he did.
I'm not concerned about Ford's pass rush, personally.

I'm concerned about his discipline, or lack thereof, on the edge against the run.

That's something so underappreciated about Houston and Hali. Yes, they are elite edge rushers and that's why they make all the $$$. But, they also create more pass rush opportunities by shutting down the run and screen game. They also happen to be far better than Dee in pass coverage, too.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but when I watch Ford I see a 4-3 DE 100%. He's stiff and slow in space. Not sure he can ever be more than a situational guy for us.
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:44 PM   #4
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I'm not concerned about Ford's pass rush, personally.

I'm concerned about his discipline, or lack thereof, on the edge against the run.

That's something so underappreciated about Houston and Hali. Yes, they are elite edge rushers and that's why they make all the $$$. But, they also create more pass rush opportunities by shutting down the run and screen game. They also happen to be far better than Dee in pass coverage, too.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but when I watch Ford I see a 4-3 DE 100%. He's stiff and slow in space. Not sure he can ever be more than a situational guy for us.
That's because you're evaluating him at SOLB. You can say all of those thugs about Hali as well, especially before his transition to 3/4 OLB. He'd be fine at WOLB with Houston on the other side.
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