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Old 08-18-2016, 07:52 AM  
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Barnwell on Derek Carr
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Carr's offensive line allowed him to do things that were relative luxuries for Bortles and Bridgewater, like breathe in the pocket without fearing for his life. Carr was pressured on only 21.6 percent of his dropbacks, the fifth-lowest rate among starting quarterbacks. A quarterback who gets the ball out quickly can distort that number (see: Tom Brady), but other metrics suggest that wasn't the case with Carr. He took 2.44 seconds before his typical pass, 15th in the league. Carr's average throw traveled 7.67 yards in the air, which was slightly below league average and one full yard deeper than the typical Bridgewater pass (6.66)...


It's another Oakland credo to go after enormous receivers. Carr's average pass went to a receiver who was 74.3 inches tall (a little over 6 feet 2), giving him the fourth-largest receiving corps in football. (Jacksonville's grouping was third.) Sadly, they weren't always his friends. Oakland's pass-catchers, which will return virtually unchanged in 2016, dropped 5.1 percent of Carr's throws last year. That was the fifth-worst rate in the league. It's hard to see these receivers combining to drop as many passes in 2016, particularly Cooper, who should be healthier after struggling through plantar fasciitis a year ago. While analyses suggesting Cooper dropped 18 passes seem off the mark, ESPN Stats & Information has Cooper down for 10 drops on 126 targets, the second-highest total in the league behind Tampa's Mike Evans.

The one perhaps concerning quirk surrounding Carr's 2015 season is what happened as it went along: Namely, Carr got worse. A lot worse. His QBR during Weeks 1-9, covering Oakland's first eight games, was 11th in the league at 66.6. During Oakland's final eight games, Carr's QBR dropped to just 35.1, leaving him 28th out of 29 passers. Only Bortles, coincidentally, was worse. Carr's decline came under duress. He had the league's lowest pressure rate during the first half of the year, at 17.6 percent. Over the final eight weeks, that pressure rate leaped up to 25.0 percent. That was only eighth in the league, but it was enough to help throw Carr off track....


There is something that will have to improve, though, fluke or otherwise: Late in games, for whatever reason, Carr was a mess. He posted a 19.9 QBR in the fourth quarter and overtime, which was the second-worst mark in the league ahead of Nick Foles. Bortles, one spot ahead of Carr, finished at 31.2. Seven of Carr's 13 picks came in the fourth quarter and OT, despite the fact that he threw only 31 percent of his passes during that time frame. Only Matthew Stafford had a higher interception rate in the fourth quarter/OT (6.8 percent) than Carr (5.3 percent).
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:24 PM   #61
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Ummm no.
you are looking at alex through rose colored glasses. he is not vick.

carr ran a 4.65, which is actually faster than what alex ran.



and of course carr runs to throw (as evidenced by his low rushing total), alex runs to run, which is another point in carr's favor
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:25 PM   #62
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Not much different.
10 TDs is a huge difference.
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:25 PM   #63
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That depends, is "her" dick bigger than yours?

I don't believe you've had pussy since pussy had you. Tight around the neck.

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Old 08-18-2016, 12:28 PM   #64
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you're a hilarious old man. i'm getting engaged next year.
Gay marriage, big deal.

So how is the Geno vs Alex thing going for you?

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you are looking at alex through rose colored glasses. he is not vick.

carr ran a 4.65, which is actually faster than what alex ran.



and of course carr runs to throw (as evidenced by his low rushing total), alex runs to run, which is another point in carr's favor
That single play counts for almost 1/3 of Carr's rushing yards on the entire season.
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That single play counts for almost 1/3 of Carr's rushing yards on the entire season.
That's because he's a QB. He throws the ball instead of running.
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Gay marriage, big deal.

So how is the Geno vs Alex thing going for you?

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not well

doesn't mean we shouldn't try again and take the next derek carr
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He's a guy like that looks good against terrible teams. And then against average to good teams he's the type of QB that will absolutely lose games for his team
Good evaluation of Alex Smiff. That Carr kid looks good though.
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Good evaluation of Alex Smiff. That Carr kid looks good though.
Further proving your lack of football knowledge and cluelessness.
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That's because he's a QB. He throws the ball instead of running.
****ing troll.
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Ohh ok, I guess Carr is more of a QB than Wilson too.
No, because Russell Wilson threw for even MORE yards and MORE TD than Carr.

A true superstar. Like Carr and Alex combined! (more Carr)
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No, because Russell Wilson threw for even MORE yards and MORE TD than Carr.

A true superstar. Like Carr and Alex combined! (more Carr)
So you only get credit for mobility if you also throw 30+ TD's, sounds objective.

Let's not pretend that Wilson's first couple of years were that way too (when he was still one of the better QB's in the NFL).
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This last year, Wilson was a stud from the pocket too. He's damn good.
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This last year, Wilson was a stud from the pocket too. He's damn good.


Yes he is. That dude is elite.


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Russell Wilson's rookie season would have been a career year for Alex
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