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Old 11-21-2016, 09:33 AM  
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Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row.
Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7



https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:10 PM   #826
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The thing is and it's why I've never jumped on the "Andy Reid is an ass OC playcalling doofus" bangwagon, is that when our QB keeps his eyes up and stays calm, we continuously have guys open and in positions to make plays.
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Well you should. If you ever played football.. be it organized or semi series flag football.. then you would know rhythm and consistent plays help the offense flow. Andy hinders that greatly by telegraphed, easily stopped lateral plays resulting in third and longs. Andy hinders Alex greatly by stupid calls. It's blatant and shouldn't be ignored.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:14 PM   #827
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Cassel had a late overtime win against the Chargers in 2011, but yeah, totally never been done before
In a game where he threw 2 picks and was harangued by the likes of Travis LaBoy and a Chargers squad in the bottom 1/3 of the league in defense. Oh, and it was a game where the Chargers made the comeback in the 4th to send it to OT before Cassel got his shot in OT; a far cry from Smith leading a drive as time expired and converting a 2-pointer to even get there (then having to answer after Denver scored to even stay alive).

He never had games where he stood up to the kind of beating that Smith has stood up to in games like Buffalo and yesterday then led a winner. When he had a chance to show he was more than the feckless quitter we know him to be against Baltimore in the playoffs, he turtled up and died.

I'm not giving Smith credit just for winning an OT game; lots of guys do that. I'm giving Smith credit for standing in there and getting beat around on a day that he didn't have it early, then finding it late to lead his team to a win against an outstanding opponent.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:42 PM   #828
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Well you should. If you ever played football.. be it organized or semi series flag football.. then you would know rhythm and consistent plays help the offense flow. Andy hinders that greatly by telegraphed, easily stopped lateral plays resulting in third and longs. Andy hinders Alex greatly by stupid calls. It's blatant and shouldn't be ignored.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:47 PM   #829
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I did the amount of check downs in the last 5 quarters.
Should have went with number of dumb shit things you say.
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:29 PM   #830
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Should have went with number of dumb shit things you say.
You still mad we didn't draft Geno?
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:02 PM   #831
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Nah. And if you think he's good against the run you're just as ****ing reeruned on that front.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:18 PM   #832
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You know what though, he may blow it against the Raiders. He may not. I don't think he'll melt down or anything and go 4 ints off into the night, but he may not play well.

But man, he nutted up and won them a game last night they should have lost. Maybe if he didn't play like ass for 3 quarters it wouldn't have mattered, but he did what he did. It's ok to give a guy credit.
Wrong. If he plays as well as Denvers 7th round rookie, there would have been no over time.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:22 PM   #833
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His bad games don't just look better than someone like Bortles, they ARE better than someone like Bortles. It's an odd strength to have, but it's definitely one he possesses.

Smith's worst games still yield about a .500 winning percentage. His bad still gives his teams a chance to win.

There's value in that.
Smith has been the beneficiary of stout, opportunic defenses. Without that his win% would be garbage IMO.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:23 PM   #834
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Wrong. If he plays as well as Denvers 7th round rookie, there would have been no over time.
Well, sure. Semien made some nice deep throws.

Like I said, if smith plays better the first 3 quarters we probably don't have overtime
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:35 PM   #835
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Well, sure. Semien made some nice deep throws.

Like I said, if smith plays better the first 3 quarters we probably don't have overtime
I see that now.

I'm just frustrated because I feel like this team is SB ready, and that coward is going to waste our best shot at a SB in my lifetime.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:37 PM   #836
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So you are not about winning games at all. Your interest is in playing pretty. Just played a very good team.. especially defense.. in their house.. in a crucial game.. and the O stepped up when most needed.

"Oh, but piss on that! cuz it wasn't all pretty!"

Really.. GFY.
You know, jerk-off...this makes sense for you didn't actually EXPERIENCE Matt Cassel and if you had, you MIGHT understand why we wouldn't want our QB to play 55 minutes of a typical game being equal to less competent as him.
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Denver will have lost the battle but won the war if last night's awesome win in any way reeruns the organization from firing Andy and cutting Alex.

It was a great win, it was fun, but let's not lose out minds and think Andy and Alex should be retained.
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:24 PM   #838
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Denver will have lost the battle but won the war if last night's awesome win in any way reeruns the organization from firing Andy and cutting Alex.

It was a great win, it was fun, but let's not lose out minds and think Andy and Alex should be retained.
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Well, sure. Semien made some nice deep throws.

Like I said, if smith plays better the first 3 quarters we probably don't have overtime
Semien loves the long ball down the left sideline. He has thrown it well all year. That's his go-to big play throw.
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