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Old 03-03-2017, 10:37 AM   #1
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I'm not sure I'd want us to draft a QB at 27. Outside of Rodgers who could have been no. 1 and then slid all the way into the 20's, I can't think of many QBs in the second half of the first that ended up a hit. Flacco went 18 and is the only other "recent" example I can think of past the middle of the 1st.

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I can't think of many guys selected in the first round but after the early teens that turned out great. Just remembered Manziel! EJ Manuel was somewhere in the mid-teens too
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:44 AM   #2
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I'm not sure I'd want us to draft a QB at 27. Outside of Rodgers who could have been no. 1 and then slid all the way into the 20's, I can't think of many QBs in the second half of the first that ended up a hit. Flacco went 18 and is the only other "recent" example I can think of past the middle of the 1st.

Weeden, Tebow, JP Losman, Grossman, Josh Freeman, Brady Quinn, Kyle Boller
I can't think of many guys selected in the first round but after the early teens that turned out great. Just remembered Manziel! EJ Manuel was somewhere in the mid-teens too
If we're going to do it, then we target the right guy in the right year, and move up to get him. Don't do this for a CP-like desperation "just draft anyone in the first" kind of selection.

When you draft a QB high, you basically are devoting 3-4 years of your franchise to them. I don't want us to do that for a tweener who might have a second round grade on them.
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Old 03-03-2017, 11:32 AM   #3
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If we're going to do it, then we target the right guy in the right year, and move up to get him. Don't do this for a CP-like desperation "just draft anyone in the first" kind of selection.

When you draft a QB high, you basically are devoting 3-4 years of your franchise to them. I don't want us to do that for a tweener who might have a second round grade on them.
Yeah, that's what I mean. I'd be ecstatic if they moved up for somebody they believed in.
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:26 PM   #4
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Yeah, that's what I mean. I'd be ecstatic if they moved up for somebody they believed in.
Watch Reid move up for the Kizer...
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If we're going to do it, then we target the right guy in the right year, and move up to get him. Don't do this for a CP-like desperation "just draft anyone in the first" kind of selection.

When you draft a QB high, you basically are devoting 3-4 years of your franchise to them. I don't want us to do that for a tweener who might have a second round grade on them.
"The right guy in the right year" is never around for us. Andy Reid is going to keep us drafting in the lower 1st for years. When that "right guy" comes around, who the hell is going to accept our offer to move up and get him? That guy is going to get taken before Dorsey can even pick up the damn phone.

We're gonna need a down year to even approach a "right guy" kind of player that so many people think will come to us one day.
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I'm not sure I'd want us to draft a QB at 27. Outside of Rodgers who could have been no. 1 and then slid all the way into the 20's, I can't think of many QBs in the second half of the first that ended up a hit. Flacco went 18 and is the only other "recent" example I can think of past the middle of the 1st.

Weeden, Tebow, JP Losman, Grossman, Josh Freeman, Brady Quinn, Kyle Boller
I can't think of many guys selected in the first round but after the early teens that turned out great. Just remembered Manziel! EJ Manuel was somewhere in the mid-teens too

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Old 03-03-2017, 05:31 PM   #7
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I'm not sure I'd want us to draft a QB at 27. Outside of Rodgers who could have been no. 1 and then slid all the way into the 20's, I can't think of many QBs in the second half of the first that ended up a hit. Flacco went 18 and is the only other "recent" example I can think of past the middle of the 1st.

Weeden, Tebow, JP Losman, Grossman, Josh Freeman, Brady Quinn, Kyle Boller
I can't think of many guys selected in the first round but after the early teens that turned out great. Just remembered Manziel! EJ Manuel was somewhere in the mid-teens too
Most of the players you mention went to a bad situation as far as teams go. Id like to think we have a better situation with system, the team that's already in place, stability, and coaching than most of those qb's were drafted into. But maybe I'm homering it up...
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I'm not sure I'd want us to draft a QB at 27. Outside of Rodgers who could have been no. 1 and then slid all the way into the 20's, I can't think of many QBs in the second half of the first that ended up a hit. Flacco went 18 and is the only other "recent" example I can think of past the middle of the 1st.

Weeden, Tebow, JP Losman, Grossman, Josh Freeman, Brady Quinn, Kyle Boller
I can't think of many guys selected in the first round but after the early teens that turned out great. Just remembered Manziel! EJ Manuel was somewhere in the mid-teens too
Could be like the Raiders and draft someone like Carr in the 2nd!
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Could be like the Raiders and draft someone like Carr in the 2nd!
Russell Wilson 75th pick; 3rd rd.
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