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Old 03-15-2017, 07:28 PM   #1
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You also said that Eric Murray was goin to replace Eric Berry and yet here we are with both Berry and Sorenson extended to long contracts.

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I doubt Berry lives up to that kinda deal, but I love Eric Murrays potential. I'm sure he will get more and more playing time over the years, even in a talented safety group.

As far as KC signing Bennie Logan, I'm excited to see this defense as Dorsey continues to improve the weaknesses. Getting Bailey and Howard back to go along with a jump from year one to year two for Jones and now adding Logan should really help KC stop the run more effectively.

I'd love it if Dorsey went out and drafted a passrusher and an ILB early in the draft.

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Pass rusher that can come in and take Fords job.
QB that can be looked at as Kansas City's starting QB in 2018/2019.
CB that can compete for a starting job to push the rest of the guys.
ILB that can give us a solid presence in the middle of the defense for a long time.

I can't wait to see the direction Dorsey goes.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:05 AM   #2
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I doubt Berry lives up to that kinda deal, but I love Eric Murrays potential.
What is Berry suppose to do to live up to the deal? Rarely do players meet or exceed the expectations of the fans when given a blockbuster contract.

I expect Berry to continue to be Berry and do as he's always done. I expect the dipshits around here to use the contract as a reason to rip Berry every time he makes a mistake. "Highest paid safety in the NFL HURDUR" as if star players don't **** up here and there.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:11 AM   #3
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What is Berry suppose to do to live up to the deal? Rarely do players meet or exceed the expectations of the fans when given a blockbuster contract.

I expect Berry to continue to be Berry and do as he's always done. I expect the dipshits around here to use the contract as a reason to rip Berry every time he makes a mistake. "Highest paid safety in the NFL HURDUR" as if star players don't **** up here and there.
You know that's how CP rolls daddio, as soon as Berry misses a tackle, or gets beat deep some dumbshit is going to scream about the money.

My favorites are where some of these non coaching, non playing, non scouting numbnuts try and tell everyone what Berry's assignment was supposed to be (with absolutely no insight to the matter whatsoever) and how he ****ed it up.
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Old 03-16-2017, 01:54 PM   #4
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What is Berry suppose to do to live up to the deal? Rarely do players meet or exceed the expectations of the fans when given a blockbuster contract.

I expect Berry to continue to be Berry and do as he's always done. I expect the dipshits around here to use the contract as a reason to rip Berry every time he makes a mistake. "Highest paid safety in the NFL HURDUR" as if star players don't **** up here and there.
Eric has to play at the level he did in 2016 consistently through the contract to justify that kind of payday. I don't think that's unfair to say, either.
13m per is game changer type money.
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Eric has to play at the level he did in 2016 consistently through the contract to justify that kind of payday. I don't think that's unfair to say, either.
13m per is game changer type money.
And i expect he will. He always has, despite his detractors.

I don't expect that he'll have game winning pick-6's ala 2016, but Berry has been the same guy since landing in KC.

Sometimes splash plays present themselves and sometimes they don't. But he's been consistently good. Sometimes the only thing fans recognize as skill are big time interceptions. Berry brings much more to the table than interceptions though. Always has.
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Old 03-16-2017, 02:09 PM   #6
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And i expect he will. He always has, despite his detractors.

I don't expect that he'll have game winning pick-6's ala 2016, but Berry has been the same guy since landing in KC.

Sometimes splash plays present themselves and sometimes they don't. But he's been consistently good. Sometimes the only thing fans recognize as skill are big time interceptions. Berry brings much more to the table than interceptions though. Always has.
He was on another level in 2016 than he was in 2010-2015.

I think he was the best safety in the league last year where he was top 5-10 before that.

Jmo.

I think the more he grows into the role of playing in coverage more and being a playmaker...the more deadly this defense can be...to live up to that contract though, he needs to continue to ascend.
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He was on another level in 2016 than he was in 2010-2015.

I think he was the best safety in the league last year where he was top 5-10 before that.

Jmo.

I think the more he grows into the role of playing in coverage more and being a playmaker...the more deadly this defense can be...to live up to that contract though, he needs to continue to ascend.
I don't know about ascending. Like you said he was great last year if he maintains that through the contract I will be happy. Like Detoxing said next year there may not be as many dramatic plays but its his over all play that is important. To me his position now is as important as a cb in pass defense.
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He was on another level in 2016 than he was in 2010-2015.

I think he was the best safety in the league last year where he was top 5-10 before that.

Jmo.

I think the more he grows into the role of playing in coverage more and being a playmaker...the more deadly this defense can be...to live up to that contract though, he needs to continue to ascend.
2016 will probably be his best year of his career.

I don't know how you ascend from the year he had. Literally carried this team to wins from the safety position because well you know why.

If he can replicate that hats off to him, he will still be the best safety in the league but it's hard to take over games on a consistent basis when you are playing a defensive position.. Only a handful of a guys I've seen currently that can do it, Watt, Houston, Von, Berry and they go so hard that they almost look like they get burnt out from doing too much. Got to see Houston do it for 1 game last year before his body gave out. He was the best player in that stadium and it wasn't close. And then that was it lol. It's so hard to carry a game if you're not a QB.
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