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Old 03-16-2017, 11:06 PM   #1
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I just don't see a 21 year old Mahomes coming into camp and overtaking Smith, even after 1 season. If drafted he's at a minimum a 2 year project. He clearly doesn't have the maturity that Prescott, Luck, or Wilson had coming out of the draft. As the analysts have said, his decision-making is far from ideal. Sure he can sit behind a protected pocket and launch a ball like his rocket-arm baseball daddy taught him to but you have to question why a quarterback needs to be flexing his muscles when his team struggled all year and finished 5-7??

Our odds of success are better waiting for a 1st rounder in 2018
This type of thinking will keep KC in its perpetual QB rut. If the Chiefs believe Mahomes can start in 1-2 years and be a SB level franchise QB, they need to trade up whatever they have to in order to get him this year, or take him at 27 if they are lucky enough to see him fall.

They need to have a guy ready to take over ideally in 2018 to get Smith's contract off the books. The best time to win the Super Bowl these days is when you have a good QB on a rookie contract. Looking at the Chiefs current roster, the time is now to strike assuming you want your QBOTF to have a redshirt year.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:58 AM   #2
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This type of thinking will keep KC in its perpetual QB rut. If the Chiefs believe Mahomes can start in 1-2 years and be a SB level franchise QB, they need to trade up whatever they have to in order to get him this year, or take him at 27 if they are lucky enough to see him fall.

They need to have a guy ready to take over ideally in 2018 to get Smith's contract off the books. The best time to win the Super Bowl these days is when you have a good QB on a rookie contract. Looking at the Chiefs current roster, the time is now to strike assuming you want your QBOTF to have a redshirt year.
I think the Mahomes fans need to ask themselves if they're willing to keep Smith as QB for 2 years until Mahomes is ready. Because yeah, he may be ready next year, but with the severe mechanics issues he has, I don't think just 1 year on the bench will be enough for him.

I don't want to keep Smith past this year so I don't want Mahomes. That chance he won't be ready in 2018 scares me too much.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:51 AM   #3
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This type of thinking will keep KC in its perpetual QB rut. If the Chiefs believe Mahomes can start in 1-2 years and be a SB level franchise QB, they need to trade up whatever they have to in order to get him this year, or take him at 27 if they are lucky enough to see him fall.

They need to have a guy ready to take over ideally in 2018 to get Smith's contract off the books. The best time to win the Super Bowl these days is when you have a good QB on a rookie contract. Looking at the Chiefs current roster, the time is now to strike assuming you want your QBOTF to have a redshirt year.
Agree with your second paragraph. I doubt Mahommes is or should be the guy, but we'll see what they think.

It's the right time to get that QBotF... just not loving the draft class. Still, throwing out a day 2 pick on a QB would not prevent them from geting a rd 1 guy in 2018.
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:43 AM   #4
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I feel like Dak is alright, but am not 100% sold and wouldn't be surprised if he tapered off at some point. He had some help...to put it lightly... like, more help than any QB could ask for... On top of that awesome OL, his receiving targets only had 8 drops all season... out of 479 targets. That's the lowest out of any team in the league...
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:32 AM   #5
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Right now the Chiefs are the 6th youngest roster in the league so they have a short window. With Jamaal gone, DJ and Tamba being less than stellar (DJ only because of injury) and Houston hopefully on the mend they need to shore up a number of positions but QB has to be a priority. Again, the last time a QB drafted by the Chiefs won a game in any capacity was 1987. That is just turrible.

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Old 03-17-2017, 09:38 AM   #6
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Right now the Chiefs are the 6th youngest roster in the league so they have a short window. With Jamaal gone, DJ and Tamba being less than stellar (DJ only because of injury) and Houston hopefully on the mend they need to shore up a number of positions but QB has to be a priority. Again, the last time a QB drafted by the Chiefs won a game in any capacity was 1987. That is just turrible.

I do agree we need to address the qb position early. But how does having the 6th youngest roster mean we have a short window? We're not going to miss much DJ and Tamba gone. They are far past their prime. We've barely played had a healthy Houston. For how many vets we have on the roster, having the 6th youngest is ridiculous. Our window is as long as Dorsey is our gm
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I do agree we need to address the qb position early. But how does having the 6th youngest roster mean we have a short window? We're not going to miss much DJ and Tamba gone. They are far past their prime. We've barely played had a healthy Houston. For how many vets we have on the roster, having the 6th youngest is ridiculous. Our window is as long as Dorsey is our gm
Every window in the NFL is short unless you have a legit franchise QB. You have a much better shot at capitalizing on superior talent in other areas if you're team leader is a legitimate star.

Several teams have won championships with middling QB's but they had superior supporting casts. Our supporting cast is excellent, but with a middle of the road QB, the window is short.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:20 AM   #8
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I feel like Dak is alright, but am not 100% sold and wouldn't be surprised if he tapered off at some point. He had some help...to put it lightly... like, more help than any QB could ask for... On top of that awesome OL, his receiving targets only had 8 drops all season... out of 479 targets. That's the lowest out of any team in the league...
He definitely went into an ideal situation.
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Old 04-01-2017, 02:37 PM   #9
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Texas Tech quarterback Patrick Mahomes has visited with the Chiefs, according to Miller. Kansas City is set to pick 27th overall, when Mahomes still might be available. The second-round-graded Mahomes has drawn plenty of interest from around the league.
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