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Old 07-10-2017, 04:54 PM   #1
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Cool!

I'll take 4 straight AFC Championship appearances and a Super Bowl appearance.
I have heard that is mostly due to the DC who died..

I saw a pretty sad stat where it showed the record of Reid's eagles before and after the guy died, and it was night and day..

Of course I would take that too though..that would be better results than I have seen in my lifetime of 30ish years as a chiefs fan
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Old 07-10-2017, 04:58 PM   #2
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I have heard that is mostly due to the DC who died..

I saw a pretty sad stat where it showed the record of Reid's eagles before and after the guy died, and it was night and day..

Of course I would take that too though..that would be better results than I have seen in my lifetime of 30ish years as a chiefs fan
Jim Johnson iirc was who died, hell uva dc.
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:08 PM   #3
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I have heard that is mostly due to the DC who died..

I saw a pretty sad stat where it showed the record of Reid's eagles before and after the guy died, and it was night and day..

Of course I would take that too though..that would be better results than I have seen in my lifetime of 30ish years as a chiefs fan
Jim Johnson was outstanding. Losing him was one thing. The big problem was the eagles replaced him with a bunch of rejects. Good news is Reid has a DC now who knows what he's doing.

Anyway, I think it's irrelevant because I dont see veach as installing the eagles way. I'm sure he will model his personnel operation after Dorsey's. That's a good thing. I just hope he can do it as effectively. I don't think Reid has much history meddling with the draft so I don't think that will be an issue. I think veach will be allowed to be his own man.
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:22 PM   #4
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I have heard that is mostly due to the DC who died..
That's false. While Jim Johnson certainly deserves credit, Any Reid and the offense were damn good in Phily.
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:24 PM   #5
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That's false. While Jim Johnson certainly deserves credit, Any Reid and the offense were damn good in Phily.
I don't know too much about it, i didn't follow the eagles but the w/l record before and after Johnson's death was pretty convincing ...but its been a few years since i saw the stat
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That's false. While Jim Johnson certainly deserves credit, Any Reid and the offense were damn good in Phily.
And it's kind of irrelevant since Bob Sutton and the defense continue to be the strength of the team.

Sutton might not be JJ, but he's one of the best currently in the NFL. He's better than Chiefs fans give him credit for.
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:28 PM   #7
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And it's kind of irrelevant since Bob Sutton and the defense continue to be the strength of the team.
Doesnt that mesh exactly with what I am saying...?

Johnson was the Strength of the eagles like Sutton is the Strength of the chiefs...

how is it irrelevant when the situation is similar?
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Doesnt that mesh exactly with what I am saying...?

Johnson was the Strength of the eagles like Sutton is the Strength of the chiefs...

how is it irrelevant when the situation is similar?
I'm saying it's irrelevant because it won't be an issue here. He has another really good DC that isn't going anywhere.
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I'm saying it's irrelevant because it won't be an issue because he has another really good DC that isn't going anywhere.
its still a relevant comparison that the strength behind reid is his DC once again....just because he isn't 'going anywhere' right now doesn't make that comparison invalid
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its still a relevant comparison that the strength behind reid is his DC once again....just because he isn't 'going anywhere' right now doesn't make that comparison invalid
Reid, like every other offensive minded HC, needs a competent DC to consistently win.

This isn't really that complicated.
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And it's kind of irrelevant since Bob Sutton and the defense continue to be the strength of the team.

Sutton might not be JJ, but he's one of the best currently in the NFL. He's better than Chiefs fans give him credit for.


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