Chiefs As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well - Page 12

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-21-2017, 02:56 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...168429397.html

As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well

BY BLAIR KERKHOFF

During his first four years with the Chiefs, quarterback Alex Smith was the unequivocal starter. That doesn’t change as he begins his fifth season, as Andy Reid emphasized Monday.

“It’s Alex’s job,” Reid said. “That’s what it is. There’s no gray area with that.”

But the circumstances are different.

Previous backup quarterbacks in the Reid era, guys like Chase Daniel and Nick Foles, weren’t being groomed as Smith’s successor. Patrick Mahomes is, and that changes the dynamic of the position.

Mahomes, who was shifted from third to second team after the Chiefs first preseason game, is on an upward track. There is more of a push at the position, and assistant head coach Brad Childress finds nothing wrong with that.

“Alex Smith has done a great job,” Childress said during training camp in St. Joseph last week. “If you look through the past four years, it’s been fairly comfortable for him. It’s not bad getting uncomfortable. You draft a guy, you look for somebody who can push, and I think it helps everybody up their game.

“Competition only makes you better. If we can create it, we’re trying to. Healthy competition is a good thing, and I think we have great, healthy competition in that quarterback room.”

Reid thinks that’s one reason why Smith raised his game during training camp.

“There’s more competition than before by the nature of it, and as a result I think he’s come out with his best camp,” Reid said.

Smith’s performance in the Chiefs’ first two preseason games is another indication. He played one series in the opener against the 49ers and engineered a touchdown drive. His two possessions last weekend at Cincinnati produced a field goal and touchdown pass. In those two games, Smith is 12 for 15 with a passer rating of 125.3.

Mahomes has generated his own buzz with his performance — he’s 17 of 23 for 137 yards through two games, with three touchdowns and no interceptions — especially after leading the first-team offense to a touchdown at Cincinnati.

Smith has been complimentary of Mahomes, suggesting that the Texas Tech rookie was more advanced in certain areas than he was a rookie.

Smith, 33, is beginning his 13th NFL season and coming off a year when he set a career best for yards (3,502) and his 91.2 passer rating was above his career mark. He’s under contract through 2018.

Smith has always been Reid’s quarterback in Kansas City. But plans had to be made for the future.

“Unfortunately, age comes into this thing,” Reid said. “You get old in this business. At one time (Smith) was the young up-and-comer. That doesn’t mean you’re going to be replaced tomorrow.

“But this is what’s real. You’re not as young as you used to be, so you bring a guy in, and this thing keeps position. It’s life.

“He treats (Mahomes) him well, and we’re not asking him to do this. That’s not his job. We’re asking him to go wins games and be the best he can be. But they talk. There’s an open communication there that’s healthy.”

Smith said he hasn’t approached this season differently than previous ones in Kansas City or San Francisco, where he spent his first eight seasons.

“It’s no different,” Smith said “For me, it’s just kind of being myself. I’m going out there and playing and trying to take advantage of my reps and myself for the season as best I can.”

But Smith isn’t going to withhold help from Mahomes, even if he is the heir apparent.

“Certainly, I’ve been through a lot,” Smith said. “So if there’s something I can help with or see, I am not going to hesitate to vocalize.”

As a Texas Tech sophomore, Mahomes beat out the returning starter for the job. When the Chiefs made him the No. 10 overall draft selection, Mahomes and his camp were thrilled not just because he was going to a winning team, but because he’d be playing for a head coach with a reputation for developing quarterbacks, and the fact that he’d get to work alongside Smith.

Unlike the other first-round quarterbacks selected — Mitchell Trubisky of the Bears, and the Texans’ Deshaun Watson — Mahomes had the advantage of working with and observing a seasoned veteran who has won playoff games and been named to Pro Bowl teams.

What has Mahomes learned from Smith?

“Just how efficient he is,” Mahomes said. “It seems like he always has a plan. ‘If they play this defense, I’m going to go here. If they play that defense I’m going there…’ and how he can get himself out of certain situations. It’s something you learn from him every time you watch it.

“Really, it’s a great relationship. Just having him in front of me, you can’t even explain how much he teaches me on the sidelines. He’s always helping me out. And at the same time, we’re pushing each other to be better every single day.”

**RealSNR** · 08-24-2017, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

The first venom begins with SNR.. cursing at penbrook for his thoughts. Penbrook doesn't respond, but still gets another.. bugeater to come insult him too. Still others trying to keep things civil and worthwhile in subsequent posts.

Penbrook had inferior thoughts. Feeble thoughts. Dumb thoughts. Worthless ****ing thoughts.

Why would you APPLAUD a 3-year extension for Alex ****ing Smith when the team spent what they did to grab Mahomes? Did Alex play really well? TRADE HIS ASS. Extending him defeats the purpose of drafting Mahomes and taking advantage of his lower salary, and it means you have to pay out the ass for Alex to stick around. That's not good, no matter how well Alex plays. He's NOT the ****ing answer.

And if Mahomes sucks it up and forces Alex to get extended, THAT'S bad as well.

All of the scenarios that involve an Alex 3-year extension are horrible. That means don't ****ing do it.

Sandy Vagina · 08-24-2017, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Penbrook had inferior thoughts. Feeble thoughts. Dumb thoughts. Worthless ****ing thoughts.

All of the scenarios that involve an Alex 3-year extension are horrible. That means don't ****ing do it.

Oh, I get what you are saying, but even a simple response of

would have been sufficient. Yet you had to post something which translated into a red-faced rage pout.

In other words.. if a post/thought is so very worthless as you claim it to be... would it really be worth typing a response to it?

Do you. Be CP. Whatever.. just sayin'...

Sandy Vagina · 08-24-2017, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Sounds like a typical CP thread to me. What's the problem?

It is/was. No personal problem to me.

Was worth a look because "the true Chiefs fans" were blaming the "Alex-only fans" for derailing the thread.. which was ironic, because this thread was instead derailed by "the true Chiefs fans."

Seems long over with now, and I thought I made that clear.. but I trust this answers your question.

Beef Supreme · 08-24-2017, 04:55 PM

Jesus ****ing Christ, we saw what happened, anybody who didn't can go back through and read it. We don't need a ****ing play by play of your goddamn perspective of it.

cooper barrett · 08-24-2017, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico

Bumped for Sandy and his multiple personalities.

Rico, I feel you are doing much better...thanks for not calling me an "Alex11sexual" by name.

I feel so much more "alive' now with that stigma of being a "mult" is off my shoulders. Oh, I forgot, it really isn't. (Big 'ol lugi cough)

I think PMll is going to be a fine QB, who hopefully plays for the Chiefs for a lot of years, but he is not all things to all people, yet.

Do I want to see him start a game and kick the literal crap out of Denver or Oakland??? Hell yes!!! I am just not sold on the "armchair" QBing here that wants to ditch Alex11 when a Texas Tech OB with 3 quarters in the NFL comes our way. We paid dearly to get him and you want to throw him to the wolves just like we always have. Insert names here... You don't want me to go there!!!!!

We were told the team was going to do things one way (PMll will train under Alex11 for a season) and the armchairs want to get on their soapbox's and toss Alex11 to the curb and see if PMll can swim with the sharks. They want the team put everything behind a rookie QB (just like we have done before) so maybe we should look at how that has worked for us in the past!! Another time, maybe.

The "Alexhaters" want to push PMll into the starring role of a Broadway show when the investors, directors, and producers have another plan for him. The powers that be must have decided as a group that they feel he is not ready. Sure, he may be able to take over the for the seasoned vet and give us a winning season but the Owner, FO, Head coach, and coaches have decided as a group to have him spend some time in the ranks learning and mastering his trade. They feel he is not ready for the bright lights and when you listen to what RGll say you realize it's true....

He didn't know how to take a snap under center when he arrived because he had only played from the shotgun at Texas Tech.

Why do some of you show anger when all we "alexsexuals" want to do is support the plan that the Clark Hunt, the Front Office, Andy Reid, and his staff have agreed upon??? I for one don't recall ever saying any words that were anything but supportive of our new star the up and coming PMll.

I cannot attach a signature yet so i'll just use this, for the time being, as a reminder to all you "alexsexual" haters***

***Insert Charter logo and "If you can't get help at charter, please , get help somewhere" motto

**RealSNR** · 08-24-2017, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Oh, I get what you are saying, but even a simple response of

would have been sufficient. Yet you had to post something which translated into a red-faced rage pout.

In other words.. if a post/thought is so very worthless as you claim it to be... would it really be worth typing a response to it?

Do you. Be CP. Whatever.. just sayin'...

I called him a ****ing idiot because he was being a ****ing idiot. That's what is expected on CP.

Sorry that got your jimmies all rustled.

**notorious** · 08-24-2017, 05:48 PM

What about the fans' discomfort?

**SAUTO** · 08-24-2017, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

"Am I a figment of your imagination or are you one of mine"

I'm going to use that one with your permission...You guys must be reasonably assured now that I am not cooper, yes?

We all know you aren't really Cooper...

Sandy Vagina · 08-24-2017, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

Jesus ****ing Christ, we saw what happened, anybody who didn't can go back through and read it. We don't need a ****ing play by play of your goddamn perspective of it.

The person above my post specifically ASKED me, so I explained it to him. If people don't want me to connect the dots or continue posting about this, a great place to start would be in NOT ****ing asking me anything or making ridiculous assertions of blame.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-24-2017, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico

Oh yeah, like you don't ask for it with your absurdity, Mr. if the Chiefs won 2-0, the offense should be credited with doing enough to win the game.

I think I'm going to go look for the old Firefox V-bulletin app. That thing was pure ****ing magic when it comes to making posters of your choosing "disappear".
There's just too much goddamned stupid going on here for one persons superior brain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I'm not reasonably assured of anything when it comes to this place.

Do you see what you're dealing with now? Is it becoming clearer? If you ever have a problem with anything I'm doing( and SAUTO can attest to this ), just PM me. We'll convo, get it right, and go on with our lives.
I'm telling you man; this last wave of cast-off QB lovers make Cassel and his "follow fans" look like pure ****ing contributors of genius, and I sincerely mean that.
It will only get worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I called him a ****ing idiot because he was being a ****ing idiot. That's what is expected on CP.

Sorry that got your jimmies all rustled.

Especially for one who has complained about the "tender pussies" of CP who don't subscribe to Sandy's ongoing idiocy.

cooper barrett · 08-25-2017, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

We all know you aren't really Cooper...

JASONAUTO: I guess that means you do know or don't know Dick..

no wrong answers.

08-21-2017, 02:56 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2977187	As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...168429397.html As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well BY BLAIR KERKHOFF During his first four years with the Chiefs, quarterback Alex Smith was the unequivocal starter. That doesn’t change as he begins his fifth season, as Andy Reid emphasized Monday. “It’s Alex’s job,” Reid said. “That’s what it is. There’s no gray area with that.” But the circumstances are different. Previous backup quarterbacks in the Reid era, guys like Chase Daniel and Nick Foles, weren’t being groomed as Smith’s successor. Patrick Mahomes is, and that changes the dynamic of the position. Mahomes, who was shifted from third to second team after the Chiefs first preseason game, is on an upward track. There is more of a push at the position, and assistant head coach Brad Childress finds nothing wrong with that. “Alex Smith has done a great job,” Childress said during training camp in St. Joseph last week. “If you look through the past four years, it’s been fairly comfortable for him. It’s not bad getting uncomfortable. You draft a guy, you look for somebody who can push, and I think it helps everybody up their game. “Competition only makes you better. If we can create it, we’re trying to. Healthy competition is a good thing, and I think we have great, healthy competition in that quarterback room.” Reid thinks that’s one reason why Smith raised his game during training camp. “There’s more competition than before by the nature of it, and as a result I think he’s come out with his best camp,” Reid said. Smith’s performance in the Chiefs’ first two preseason games is another indication. He played one series in the opener against the 49ers and engineered a touchdown drive. His two possessions last weekend at Cincinnati produced a field goal and touchdown pass. In those two games, Smith is 12 for 15 with a passer rating of 125.3. Mahomes has generated his own buzz with his performance — he’s 17 of 23 for 137 yards through two games, with three touchdowns and no interceptions — especially after leading the first-team offense to a touchdown at Cincinnati. Smith has been complimentary of Mahomes, suggesting that the Texas Tech rookie was more advanced in certain areas than he was a rookie. Smith, 33, is beginning his 13th NFL season and coming off a year when he set a career best for yards (3,502) and his 91.2 passer rating was above his career mark. He’s under contract through 2018. Smith has always been Reid’s quarterback in Kansas City. But plans had to be made for the future. “Unfortunately, age comes into this thing,” Reid said. “You get old in this business. At one time (Smith) was the young up-and-comer. That doesn’t mean you’re going to be replaced tomorrow. “But this is what’s real. You’re not as young as you used to be, so you bring a guy in, and this thing keeps position. It’s life. “He treats (Mahomes) him well, and we’re not asking him to do this. That’s not his job. We’re asking him to go wins games and be the best he can be. But they talk. There’s an open communication there that’s healthy.” Smith said he hasn’t approached this season differently than previous ones in Kansas City or San Francisco, where he spent his first eight seasons. “It’s no different,” Smith said “For me, it’s just kind of being myself. I’m going out there and playing and trying to take advantage of my reps and myself for the season as best I can.” But Smith isn’t going to withhold help from Mahomes, even if he is the heir apparent. “Certainly, I’ve been through a lot,” Smith said. “So if there’s something I can help with or see, I am not going to hesitate to vocalize.” As a Texas Tech sophomore, Mahomes beat out the returning starter for the job. When the Chiefs made him the No. 10 overall draft selection, Mahomes and his camp were thrilled not just because he was going to a winning team, but because he’d be playing for a head coach with a reputation for developing quarterbacks, and the fact that he’d get to work alongside Smith. Unlike the other first-round quarterbacks selected — Mitchell Trubisky of the Bears, and the Texans’ Deshaun Watson — Mahomes had the advantage of working with and observing a seasoned veteran who has won playoff games and been named to Pro Bowl teams. What has Mahomes learned from Smith? “Just how efficient he is,” Mahomes said. “It seems like he always has a plan. ‘If they play this defense, I’m going to go here. If they play that defense I’m going there…’ and how he can get himself out of certain situations. It’s something you learn from him every time you watch it. “Really, it’s a great relationship. Just having him in front of me, you can’t even explain how much he teaches me on the sidelines. He’s always helping me out. And at the same time, we’re pushing each other to be better every single day.”
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