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Old 12-13-2015, 05:15 PM  
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Did y'all catch Squirmin Herman's spot on ESPN about Shady?
He straight up went the **** off! I don't know if this happened this morning, or a couple of days ago but he lost his ****ing shit over it! It was great. I'll try and track down something I can embed into this post. For those who saw it, did you laugh, or were you almost embarrassed for the guy?

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Old 12-15-2015, 01:24 PM   #211
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:26 PM   #212
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Because most of the reason people hate the guy is because he is scapegoated for another coach's failures.

He wasn't a good coach but he wasn't terrible. And he didn't wreck the ship, he inherited a ship that was going to get wrecked no matter who took over. I don't defend mediocre which is why I wasn't a fan of the Reid hire. But mediocre is different from terrible.
Herm has a worse career winning % as a head coach than Rich Kotite, who is generally regarded as a terrible HC.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:29 PM   #213
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Look at the roster I've shown above.

A GM who wasn't a doofus would have drafted Sanchez at number 3. Would have stuck with a 4-3 and used the 57m in cap space to make a big play for Julius peppers, Haynesworth, and either dansby or Vilma. Kept Gonzalez. And with ljs contract, we would have made the switch from LJ to Charles.

Even with a doofus of a coach, that would have easily have been a. 500 team. 2009 could have been a huge year if pioli didn't completely whiff.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:31 PM   #214
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Herm has a worse career winning % as a head coach than Rich Kotite, who is generally regarded as a terrible HC.
He also has four playoff appearances and two wins. I don't care how talented your team is (and it's not like the Jets were crazy talented), that is not easy to do.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:39 PM   #215
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200+ posts on Herman ****ing Edwards?

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Old 12-15-2015, 03:41 PM   #216
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It's amazing. I think chiefzilla is literally the one person I've met either on here or in real life that feels in any capacity that Herman ****ing Edwards was a positive for this franchise. The excuses he makes for him are laughable. For ****'s sake, we've got a Jets fan on here agreeing with all the rest of us, but he still just keeps on with his narrative.
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Old 12-15-2015, 04:20 PM   #217
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It's amazing. I think chiefzilla is literally the one person I've met either on here or in real life that feels in any capacity that Herman ****ing Edwards was a positive for this franchise. The excuses he makes for him are laughable. For ****'s sake, we've got a Jets fan on here agreeing with all the rest of us, but he still just keeps on with his narrative.
There are plenty of people who believe that Herm was okay to good from a personnel standpoint.

And I agree with most of the criticisms of his coaching. Except when people use the word "horrible."

Of course people are going to disagree with me. For some reason, Herm gets an insane amount of criticism and chiefsplanet and fans in general love to live in extremes. People are either 100% terrible or they're Gods. There's nothing in-between. So for you to say Herm did nothing at all positive for the Chiefs, I'll use the word again: that's "ridiculous."
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Old 09-10-2017, 10:52 PM   #218
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My expectation is that you should have about 45 guys that are legit players. Dorsey can do it, why can't Herm? There are a shitton of guys getting jobs after chiefs now than back then.

And 5 guys? are you kidding me?


Jared Allen is still in the league
Cough, didn't Allen ride off into the sunset , or lack thereof, on his horse when he retired?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjfYY0K5vG4
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Old 09-10-2017, 11:26 PM   #219
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I absolutely love everything he had to say and how he said it. I love that He didn't give the F10 answer. I would never want him back as our coach, but I just like him... he's real. I'm old school and I could not agree with him more.
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Regardless of his coaching ability, his point here is spot on. This is a team game, and the media, for the sake of ratings, have provided a platform for players to detract from the product. One could argue that this drama adds to the product, but I don't buy that.

In defense of Herm, he took over a team in a terrible position roster and salary cap-wise. To make a political analogy that will most likely be over most of CP's head, just because Herbert Hoover presided over the Great Depression doesn't mean he caused it.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:05 AM   #221
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Regardless of his coaching ability, his point here is spot on. This is a team game, and the media, for the sake of ratings, have provided a platform for players to detract from the product. One could argue that this drama adds to the product, but I don't buy that.

In defense of Herm, he took over a team in a terrible position roster and salary cap-wise. To make a political analogy that will most likely be over most of CP's head, just because Herbert Hoover presided over the Great Depression doesn't mean he caused it.
I agree with Herm's point here. He was spot on, as you said.

As for his coaching, he is terrible. I would never want him anywhere near the Chiefs again. Well, maybe in the scouting department. The guy does seem to have a good eye for talent. But that's it. He was in way over his head as a NFL head coach.
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To make a political analogy that will most likely be over most of CP's head, just because Herbert Hoover presided over the Great Depression doesn't mean he caused it.
lol.....why would you think that would be over most of our heads?
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You all realize The OP was 2 years ago, right?

Cooper bumped it when I referenced this thread when Zilla still refuses to put down the Herm banner.
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You all realize The OP was 2 years ago, right?

Cooper bumped it when I referenced this thread when Zilla still refuses to put down the Herm banner.
I think you're missing the point.
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