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Old 11-05-2017, 06:29 PM  
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What the hell happened to this guy?

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Old 11-08-2017, 11:51 AM   #91
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Trying to put a percentage on it is pointless, but the offense as a whole has clearly regressed

Musical chairs O line finally caught up to us, even with rusty LDT back

Smith starting to manager up again because of that, reverting back to his comfortable default mode

Reids propensity for becoming inexplicably predictable at the worst times, after extended fits of sheer genius is well documented

Its on every member of that staff and team
Butker is the only one keeping himself out of this shitstorm.
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Old 11-08-2017, 12:36 PM   #92
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Butker is the only one keeping himself out of this shitstorm.
Toub really had an ace up his sleeve there, kid is like the new Seabass
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Old 11-08-2017, 12:48 PM   #93
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I think he does better running power but the line is full of little girls that get destroyed off the snap. Not sure how they got so bad all of a sudden even with Morse & Tardif in there. There seems to be room when they run the stretch but he's not patient enough or has the vision to find the cutback.
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Old 11-08-2017, 12:49 PM   #94
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Yep. Fans love to use hindsight... You never heard any complaints about Sutton after that Steelers playoff loss. It was all Alex Smith's fault. The defense/Sutton was great all season and carried the team was all I heard before the season started this year. Now the defense sucks and Sutton needs to be fired halfway into the season...

Got to love it.
No, the defense sucked back then too.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:00 AM   #95
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No, the defense sucked back then too.
We were not killing them PPG last year were 19PPG (Which was #6) sure beats 23PPG today in 2016 (2014-15 low 17's)

In 2012 we were 26.6PPG scored on us

We could be a lot worse and hopefully we get back some key people, a refreshed team, and some new "schemes" in place wouldn't hurt from Sutton.
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:43 AM   #96
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That run in OT yesterday that got called back on the bogus penalty was amazing. This kid is good and he's gonna be great. Period.
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:57 AM   #97
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Take out one horrible game against one of the best run defenses in the league (denver) and he is still averaging over 4YPC in those other 4 games.

It doesnt help that he only had 9 carries against PIT and 9 carries against DAL.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:04 AM   #98
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Yep. Fans love to use hindsight... You never heard any complaints about Sutton after that Steelers playoff loss. It was all Alex Smith's fault. The defense/Sutton was great all season and carried the team was all I heard before the season started this year. Now the defense sucks and Sutton needs to be fired halfway into the season...

Got to love it.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:26 AM   #99
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Old 11-21-2017, 03:00 AM   #100
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Running game is equally as bad as passing
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Old 11-21-2017, 03:26 AM   #101
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If you had to put a % on it.. how much do you think is the OL.. and how much is it that defenses are starting to predict and diagnose our plays pre-snap?

Anyone have thoughts on that?
Alex Smith is struggling to beat basic zone coverage. That is by a mile the biggest issue. The OL improves when Alex Smith gets rid of the ball faster and finds the hot read. The offense becomes much less predictable when we aren't constantly checking down. The run game improves dramatically when you stretch the defense a little bit.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:11 AM   #102
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Andy has never committed to the run. That's part of the problem.
30 mph winds and Hunt had like 4 carries in the first half.

His best run of the day was called back because of a penalty. I don't know why Reid isn't getting more blame for the overall lack of discipline.

And, they keep putting West in the game in critical situations. Hunt has big play ability but they send him to the bench.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:26 AM   #103
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What the hell happened to this guy?

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Hasn't scored a TD in 6 games
Bad QB play.

When the defense can totally focus on KH and not worry about AS going downfield because they know AS can't throw or won't throw in tight windows then it makes it pretty easy to shut down the run game. And also our o-line does not have the ability to road grade when needed(when defenses stack the box).
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:30 AM   #104
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QB drives the train. Smith ignores WRs and never gets them in the flow of the game. If he was actually a capable QB he would be able to loosen up a defense but he isn't capable. He fails to look in the right place and even when he does he fails to pull the trigger to many times. He affects the offense including the running game.
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:34 AM   #105
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This offensive line is garbage when facing big huge front 7s that get after you with just punching you in the face.

I was at the game and the Giants are terrible but one of their biggest investments is their D-Line (Snacks, JPP, Vernon, etc). They are stout up front just like the Steelers and this offensive line can't handle guys that just bullrush you all game.

I have never seen a LT in football get that much help on the blindside like Fisher did against the Giants. I couldnt believe how many times Kelce lines up on the LT's side or they BROUGHT AN EXTRA LINEMAN IN and had to declare him as an eligible receiver just to sit him next to Fisher and help Fisher stop Vernon.

The Chiefs basically admitted defeat before the game even started that the 1 on 1 matchup between Fisher and Vernon was something they needed to plan and help him with with Kelce chipping or an extra lineman.

I couldn't believe how many double teams and all the resources that went into stopping Vernon. It made me realize how important having a good premier LT is.
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