Chiefs Let's talk Secondary

cmh6476 · 02:42 PM

Is there any question this unit has the most questions?

In looking at our roster and some depth charts out there seems these CBs have best shot at finding playing time

Steven Nelson (5'-11, 194, Age 25) - 3rd in '15
Keith Reaser (6'-0, 190, 26) - 5th in '14 by SF
Kendall Fuller (5'-11, 198, 23) - 3rd in '16 by Was
David Amerson (6'-1, 205, 26) - 2nd in '13 by Was
Will Redmond (6'0, 186, 24) - 3rd in '16 by SF

Probably more relegated to special teams duty if they make the team?

Tremon Smith (6'-0, 190, 21) - 6th in '18
Ashton Lampkin (6'-0, 189, 24) - UDFA in '17
Makinton Dorleant (5'-11, 185, 25) - UDFA in '16
Arrion Springs (6'-0, 205, 22) - UDFA in '18
D'Montre Wade (6'-0, 200, 23) - UDFA in '18

Free safety I'm seeing:

1. Leon McQuay (6'-1, 195, 23) - 6th in '17
2. Robert Golden (5'-11, 202, 27) - UDFA in '12, first 6 yrs w/ Pit
3. Armani Watts (5'-11, 205, 22) - 4th in '18
4. Jordan Sterns (5'-11, 198, 24) - UDFA in '17

and SS...

1. Eric Berry (6'-0, 212, 29) - 1st in '10
2. Daniel Sorensen (6'-2, 208, 28) - UDFA in '14
3. Eric Murray (5'-11, 199, 24) - 4th in '16
4. Step Durham (5'-11, 194, 23) - UDFA in '18

cmh6476 · 06-23-2018, 02:32 PM

My early observations would...

- damn, we really haven't invested many early draft picks on any secondary guys that are on this year's roster

- is this the year Sorensen goes away forever? Love ya and god bless...

-Can one of these guys I have never heard of step up and become a legitimate NFL corner?

**Buehler445** · 06-23-2018, 02:34 PM

We really need the pass rush to step up and help these guys.

**Bwana** · 06-23-2018, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

We really need the pass rush to step up and help these guys.

Indeed!

Chiefshrink · 06-23-2018, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

We really need the pass rush to step up and help these guys.

The pass rush is truly the big unknown this year for sure. Will Ford be at least respectable? Will Berry ball like he did in 16? Will Fuller ball like he did in Washington? Will Houston be allowed to rush more than be in coverage? Will Tanoh break out ? Will Jones finally produce a consistent steady disruptive motor? Will this years defensive draft picks be able to produce ?

Buckweath · 06-23-2018, 06:24 PM

I trust the pass rush to be good. The secondary not so much. I feel confident in having Fuller as a #1 CB, Nelson as a #3 CB but I see Amerson as a #4CB, meaning a guy who could be good enough to start but you are not sure. Now where is the #2 CB.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 06-23-2018, 02:37 PM

I really like Tremon Smith. He's played QB ,WR,punt returner and now safety. Has ball skills similar to Peterson. Tons of potential !!!!!!!

cmh6476 · 06-23-2018, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I really like Tremon Smith. He's played QB ,WR,punt returner and now safety. Has ball skills similar to Peterson. Tons of potential !!!!!!!

That's good to hear, because I really don't think I like Steven Nelson.

dj56dt58 · 06-23-2018, 03:04 PM

Tremon Smith and Armani watts could be very important additions both have a ton of potential

Simply Red · 06-23-2018, 03:06 PM

I think Amerson will be the one that we wind up hating - and will prove to be a liability - & I hope like hell I'm wrong.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 06-23-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

I think Amerson will be the one that we wind up hating - and will prove to be a liability - & I hope like hell I'm wrong.

My feeling also. BUT, he did lead the league in passes Defensed 2 years ago. Maybe the Raiders sorry coaching hurt him last year.

**Rausch** · 06-25-2018, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

I think Amerson will be the one that we wind up hating - and will prove to be a liability - & I hope like hell I'm wrong.

I think it's a pretty safe bet you're right on this.

Now we might have someone other than Houston step up this year and provide a respectable pass rush. Solid pass rush helps hide a mediocre secondary.

Also having Berry back will be a huge help to a suspect secondary...

Halfcan · 06-23-2018, 03:23 PM

Scary

Red Dawg · 06-23-2018, 03:40 PM

Get a damn pass rush and that will help. Not much to be thrilled about at CB except for Fuller. He can ball. Berry is the key though. If he has some left in the tank we could surprise.

mcaj22 · 06-23-2018, 03:41 PM

this group could be a burn unit really quick, hoping one of these late round picks or unknown guys/stashes becomes a diamond in the rough.

06-23-2018, 02:30 PM	Topic Starter
cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $-843723	Let's talk Secondary Is there any question this unit has the most questions? In looking at our roster and some depth charts out there seems these CBs have best shot at finding playing time Steven Nelson (5'-11, 194, Age 25) - 3rd in '15 Keith Reaser (6'-0, 190, 26) - 5th in '14 by SF Kendall Fuller (5'-11, 198, 23) - 3rd in '16 by Was David Amerson (6'-1, 205, 26) - 2nd in '13 by Was Will Redmond (6'0, 186, 24) - 3rd in '16 by SF Probably more relegated to special teams duty if they make the team? Tremon Smith (6'-0, 190, 21) - 6th in '18 Ashton Lampkin (6'-0, 189, 24) - UDFA in '17 Makinton Dorleant (5'-11, 185, 25) - UDFA in '16 Arrion Springs (6'-0, 205, 22) - UDFA in '18 D'Montre Wade (6'-0, 200, 23) - UDFA in '18 Free safety I'm seeing: 1. Leon McQuay (6'-1, 195, 23) - 6th in '17 2. Robert Golden (5'-11, 202, 27) - UDFA in '12, first 6 yrs w/ Pit 3. Armani Watts (5'-11, 205, 22) - 4th in '18 4. Jordan Sterns (5'-11, 198, 24) - UDFA in '17 and SS... 1. Eric Berry (6'-0, 212, 29) - 1st in '10 2. Daniel Sorensen (6'-2, 208, 28) - UDFA in '14 3. Eric Murray (5'-11, 199, 24) - 4th in '16 4. Step Durham (5'-11, 194, 23) - UDFA in '18 Last edited by cmh6476; 06-23-2018 at 02:42 PM..
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06-23-2018, 02:32 PM	#2
cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $-843723	My early observations would... - damn, we really haven't invested many early draft picks on any secondary guys that are on this year's roster - is this the year Sorensen goes away forever? Love ya and god bless... -Can one of these guys I have never heard of step up and become a legitimate NFL corner? __________________ from September to February! from November to April! from April to October! 2024 Adopt-a-Chief: Xavier Worthy
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06-23-2018, 06:24 PM	#6
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	I trust the pass rush to be good. The secondary not so much. I feel confident in having Fuller as a #1 CB, Nelson as a #3 CB but I see Amerson as a #4CB, meaning a guy who could be good enough to start but you are not sure. Now where is the #2 CB.
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06-23-2018, 02:37 PM	#7
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1429523	I really like Tremon Smith. He's played QB ,WR,punt returner and now safety. Has ball skills similar to Peterson. Tons of potential !!!!!!!
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dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	Tremon Smith and Armani watts could be very important additions both have a ton of potential
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06-23-2018, 02:34 PM	#3
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1375266	We really need the pass rush to step up and help these guys.
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Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	I think Amerson will be the one that we wind up hating - and will prove to be a liability - & I hope like hell I'm wrong.
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Scary
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Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1452858	Get a damn pass rush and that will help. Not much to be thrilled about at CB except for Fuller. He can ball. Berry is the key though. If he has some left in the tank we could surprise. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	this group could be a burn unit really quick, hoping one of these late round picks or unknown guys/stashes becomes a diamond in the rough.
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