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Old 10-22-2018, 08:21 PM   #1
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They're going to **** the free agent market up something awful.

They have NOBODY worth spending money on. Nobody at all. They're going to go into the FA market with like $100 million in cap space and just spend like they'll lose it if they don't.

They're going to be able to out-suck the NFL for 1.1, IMO. The Giants have Barkley and that will get them to 3-4 wins. The Cardinals and 49ers play each other so there's 2 wins in some capacity there. The Raiders may get to 3 wins but 2-14 seems pretty likely.

So with Herbert, a likely WR somewhere in the draft and probably a pass rusher of some sort, they'll go HARD after free agents over the next 2 seasons. What the hell else can they do? They don't have anyone on that roster left to extend.
Surely they will flip that cap and some picks into trades, right? Didn’t they have this same deal a few years ago and had to give some shitty FB a massive contract to meet the floor?

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Problem is Mahomes’ talent only comes along once a decade. Last one before Mahomes was Rodgers in 2005. Gruden ain’t gonna find that talent in the next few draft classes. But at least he can start over instead of dealing with damaged goods in Derek Carr.
Yeah, he wasn’t fully damaged until Gruden Rolled in. Del Rio of all ****s couldn’t break him. Gruden did it in 4 games.

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I went ahead and looked up his draft history with the Bucs & Raiders. He's on DV's level as far as drafting, and the two high drafts picks that he's used on QB's were Marques Tuiasosopo and Chris Simms.
Simms wasn’t awful. Until Gruden deaded him.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:38 AM   #2
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This trade isn't that bad when you consider the patriots traded a 1st and 3rd for Brandin Cooks and a 4th.

At the time, Cooks played 3 years in NO:
162 receptions, 2861 yards, 20 TD

Cooper through first 3 years in Oak (this is his 4th season):
203 receptions, 2903 yards, 18 TD, 2x pro bowl
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:43 AM   #3
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This trade isn't that bad when you consider the patriots traded a 1st and 3rd for Brandin Cooks and a 4th.

At the time, Cooks played 3 years in NO:
162 receptions, 2861 yards, 20 TD

Cooper through first 3 years in Oak (this is his 4th season):
203 receptions, 2903 yards, 18 TD, 2x pro bowl
He's on pace this year for 800 yards 60 receptions and 3tds. I would trade based on future expectations not past performance but that's just me.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:48 AM   #4
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This trade isn't that bad when you consider the patriots traded a 1st and 3rd for Brandin Cooks and a 4th.

At the time, Cooks played 3 years in NO:
162 receptions, 2861 yards, 20 TD

Cooper through first 3 years in Oak (this is his 4th season):
203 receptions, 2903 yards, 18 TD, 2x pro bowl
Yeah, but his trendline is pointing down. And Garrett is as bad at coaching as Chucky. Not likely to reverse that trend.

If they needed a receiver, they should have sent a 4th to Cleveland for Gordon.
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Old 10-23-2018, 07:02 AM   #5
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He's on pace this year for 800 yards 60 receptions and 3tds. I would trade based on future expectations not past performance but that's just me.
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Yeah, but his trendline is pointing down. And Garrett is as bad at coaching as Chucky. Not likely to reverse that trend.

If they needed a receiver, they should have sent a 4th to Cleveland for Gordon.
Valid points on Cooper's trend, and I agree the price is high. I just don't see it as crazy compared to Cooks.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:39 AM   #6
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Yeah, but his trendline is pointing down. And Garrett is as bad at coaching as Chucky. Not likely to reverse that trend.

If they needed a receiver, they should have sent a 4th to Cleveland for Gordon.
That has as much to do with Carr's suckitude as it does anything with Cooper. Cooper often runs free after torching a DB only to have Carr throw it to someone behind the LOS.
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Surely they will flip that cap and some picks into trades, right? Didn’t they have this same deal a few years ago and had to give some shitty FB a massive contract to meet the floor?



Yeah, he wasn’t fully damaged until Gruden Rolled in. Del Rio of all ****s couldn’t break him. Gruden did it in 4 games.


Simms wasn’t awful. Until Gruden deaded him.
Simms talks freely about how Gruden basically ruined his career.
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Cowboys are damn stupid. Jones is damn football stupid. Trade a 1 pick for a run of mill WR? If he can't see that Dak is boring and not good enough he's really getting old. They will los 9 games and have no 1st rounder. Well done.
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