Offense

[chinaski]

I was thinking about this the other day. Now that NFL seems to be fully, well at at least partially, embracing the 'air raid' college offenses and college concepts, are there an college defensive concepts that could be incorporated into NFL defenses? I don't watch college ball so I don't know.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by chinaski

I was thinking about this the other day. Now that NFL seems to be fully, well at at least partially, embracing the 'air raid' college offenses and college concepts, are there an college defensive concepts that could be incorporated into NFL defenses? I don't watch college ball so I don't know.

I'm not the best person to state an observation, but it seems college offenses spread it out with 5 receivers because their worst receiver is typically a better option than the defenses 4th string+ defensive back. If the QB has 2.5+ seconds to throw they will absolutely have at least 1 guy open. A great pass rush can tip the game in favor of the D since it can garner a sack or a shit throw for an INT.

For the most part, it all comes down to talent. Bama is straight up massacring everyone with their all blue-chip team (more or less). They have so much talent across the board even the next most talented teams barely have a chance in hell to compete. They aren't even fun to watch. It's like HS starters vs JV every week.

My shit prediction is we see more 4 fronts in the NFL with big ****ers on the line to stop the run; big backs are coming back to destroy the smaller coverage linebackers.

Two tweener linebackers that are solid at both pass and run will possibly become the norm, as well as a hybrid LB/S like Jabril Peppers floating around with 4 DBs.

So nickel defense with a hybrid safety instead of a NB?

[tmax63]

College teams aren't really known for their defenses.

[Simply Red]

where can I stream one of your softball games?

[LoneWolf]

If you watched the Patriots/Green Bay game last night and thought that was 2 offenses carving up defenses, then I would say you don’t know what the hell youre looking at.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

If you watched the Patriots/Green Bay game last night and thought that was 2 offenses carving up defenses, then I would say you don’t know what the hell youre looking at.

I thought that too. That was a good defensive game.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by O.city

I thought that too. That was a good defensive game.

Is it not a sign of the issue that we're now used to 48 point games being a "good defensive game"?

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Is it not a sign of the issue that we're now used to 48 point games being a "good defensive game"?

Not if you watched the game. It was 17-17 with 10 minutes left in the 4th Qtr. There weren’t a lot of wide open receivers and both teams were stopping the run.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Not if you watched the game. It was 17-17 with 10 minutes left in the 4th Qtr. There weren’t a lot of wide open receivers and both teams were stopping the run.

Right, but even 17-17 isn't really what I'd call a defensive game if you are looking at the NFL historically. Good defensive game by 2018 standards? Sure. But if that game happened in the 90s, we would be wondering what the hell happened. (And randomly throwing out a quarter to fit the narrative is an odd way to make the argument. Defense counts in the 4th quarter too.)

We've completely forgotten what a good defense looks like.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Is it not a sign of the issue that we're now used to 48 point games being a "good defensive game"?

Well, it ended up that sure.

For the majority of the game it was 17 17 in the 2nd half.

I don't think that's any different than games 10 or 15 years ago.

I mean, hell, the Chiefs played a divisional playoff game what, 15 years ago where neither team punted.

[Halfcan]

It is the NFL narrative. In the new NFL IF:

You get a legit QB sack and strip fumble like Dee Ford- the Refs immediately take it away to keep the game close.

If the defense pushes back after the offense takes a cheapshot- (Hitchens) 15 yard penalty.

When you sack the QB- you have to hug him now like a long lost friend and hope he does not escape and the Refs blow the whistle ( Jones)

If you try to make a play and roll into the Punter (Packers game) they call that a Personal foul and set the Pats up with a first down even though the RULES state otherwise.

I feel like we are watching WWE and not a legit sport any longer. The Chiefs would be blowing teams out without the help of the Refs. Every game seems like it is scripted to keep it close- and if one team starts to dominate- the Refs will throw 3 ****ing flags on one play, start messing with the spot on the ball and call endless penalties to give the other team a chance.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

It is the NFL narrative. In the new NFL IF:

You get a legit QB sack and strip fumble like Dee Ford- the Refs immediately take it away to keep the game close.

If the defense pushes back after the offense takes a cheapshot- (Hitchens) 15 yard penalty.

When you sack the QB- you have to hug him now like a long lost friend and hope he does not escape and the Refs blow the whistle ( Jones)

If you try to make a play and roll into the Punter (Packers game) they call that a Personal foul and set the Pats up with a first down even though the RULES state otherwise.

I feel like we are watching WWE and not a legit sport any longer. The Chiefs would be blowing teams out without the help of the Refs. Every game seems like it is scripted to keep it close- and if one team starts to dominate- the Refs will throw 3 ****ing flags on one play, start messing with the spot on the ball and call endless penalties to give the other team a chance.

Double digit victories and blowout wins all over the league this week.

Halfcan: “****ing WWNFL is scripting games to keep them close!”

What a ****ing dipshit.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Double digit victories and blowout wins all over the league this week.

Halfcan: “****ing WWNFL is scripting games to keep them close!”

What a ****ing dipshit.

Eat a bag of dicks!

Did you miss the Chiefs / Steelers game ****head? Should have been a blowout. Same with this week. Browns were gifted several calls that kept them in the game. You said you watched the Packers game- horrible calls against the Pack. What is your explanation for an entire season of ridiculously game changing calls?

Every time the Chiefs make a big play, especially on defense- we have to hold our breath to see if the Refs will let it stand. So it is either being scripted or the Refs are just really ****ing stupid like you.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Eat a bag of dicks!

Did you miss the Chiefs / Steelers game ****head? Should have been a blowout. Same with this week. Browns were gifted several calls that kept them in the game. You said you watched the Packers game- horrible calls against the Pack. What is your explanation for an entire season of ridiculously game changing calls?

Every time the Chiefs make a big play, especially on defense- we have to hold our breath to see if the Refs will let it stand. So it is either being scripted or the Refs are just really ****ing stupid like you.

Go **** yourself soup boy. Dee Ford was lined up offsides on the play with the strip sack. The rest of the game was officiated OK.

Stop being such a pussy.

[Iczer]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Go **** yourself soup boy. Dee Ford was lined up offsides on the play with the strip sack. The rest of the game was officiated OK.

Stop being such a pussy.

You seem so sure about this. The replays I saw, Ford got an amazing jump and was moving WHILE the center was hiking it.

No flag was thrown, no explanation. It's almost like the refs got together and decided to penalize him for being too fast.