What are you spinning?

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

If GN'R or Nirvana came about today, neither would be regarded as 'dangerous'; Rock n roll itself is no longer considered dangerous. No one buys albums anymore, or even mp3s, and at 30% of a cent per Pandora stream, the 'next, most dangerous band' couldn't make bail for the early offenses at those wages, and that was that.


no, seriously...major labels shy away from the "actually dangerous with something to say" and are drawn to the more stable/consistent behavior of "pretending to be dangerous with nothing to say" (Godsmack/Nickleback/Volbeat/FFDP/etc).

They hate bands who are volatile and who may either self implode or cause a riot, seemingly at the flip of the coin..

Those days are over. But dangerous or not, those two bands had great songs and made great albums.

There are still bands who have great songs and make great albums. I listed a few above.

The last great dangerous group that had popular impact in a major country was BiS. They just weren't known much in the English speaking world.

It is not their lyrics but what they did. They attacked the huge chart topping idol industry, they trolled their fans, their videos sometimes had blood, nudity, and horrific imagery, they did nude photo shoots, they were highly varied in their sound, they collaborated with a noise rock band, and at the height of their popularity they broke up and then did a concert the very next day as ex-BiS.

Their live shows could devolve into chaos as they played the same song over and over again:

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

The last great dangerous group that had popular impact in a major country was BiS. They just weren't known much in the English speaking world.

It is not their lyrics but what they did. They attacked the huge chart topping idol industry, they trolled their fans, their videos sometimes had blood, nudity, and horrific imagery, they did nude photo shoots, they were highly varied in their sound, they collaborated with a noise rock band, and at the height of their popularity they broke up and then did a concert the very next day as ex-BiS.

Their live shows could devolve into chaos as they played the same song over and over again:

Neil Young did all that first, and he was actually able to create timeless music in the process.

Well, except for the nude photo shoots. Neil never did that.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Neil Young did all that first, and he was actually able to create timeless music in the process.

Well, except for the nude photo shoots. Neil never did that.

Yes, but he did it in a genre that was known for being rebellious. Not in a genre that was known for being completely corporate controlled including contractual obligations for purity, wholesomeness, and chastity* while the idol groups were presented with a wink and a nod as sex objects to their fans.

*Idols are generally salaried employees of their talent agencies not as independent entities. This also means pay tends to be low.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Yes, but he did it in a genre that was known for being rebellious. Not in a genre that was known for being completely corporate controlled including contractual obligations for purity, wholesomeness, and chastity* while the idol groups were presented with a wink and a nod as sex objects to their fans.

*Idols are generally salaried employees of their talent agencies not as independent entities. This also means pay tends to be low.

Fair enough.