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Old 11-22-2018, 04:21 PM   #1
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false narrative.

You instill the fear of the CONSEQUENCES for their actions.

Same reason YOU play by the rules. A healthy fear of judgment/punishment is beneficial.
Some try to install ethical and moral principals instead of just fear. YMMV.
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Old 11-22-2018, 04:33 PM   #2
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Some try to install ethical and moral principals instead of just fear. YMMV.
I don't think it's just fear. To me, up until a certain age, reason and logic don't work. You can't explain to a kid why he shouldn't do something because they just can't comprehend the reason. Spanking them works in that situation. Because they learn that if they do X, there's an immediate consequence for it. Then when they're of age, they get to learn why they shouldn't do it.

And there's a difference between spanking and just beating/abusing your child to me.
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Old 11-22-2018, 04:37 PM   #3
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I don't think it's just fear. To me, up until a certain age, reason and logic don't work. You can't explain to a kid why he shouldn't do something because they just can't comprehend the reason. Spanking them works in that situation. Because they learn that if they do X, there's an immediate consequence for it. Then when they're of age, they get to learn why they shouldn't do it.

And there's a difference between spanking and just beating/abusing your child to me.
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There is a huge difference between spanking and beating.

I doubt Peterson understands the difference...
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I don't think it's just fear. To me, up until a certain age, reason and logic don't work. You can't explain to a kid why he shouldn't do something because they just can't comprehend the reason. Spanking them works in that situation. Because they learn that if they do X, there's an immediate consequence for it. Then when they're of age, they get to learn why they shouldn't do it.

And there's a difference between spanking and just beating/abusing your child to me.
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I understand, agree, and do spank my kids. However, I don't do so to instill fear. You're right that at an early age, operant conditioning is a substitute for logic.
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Some try to install ethical and moral principals instead of just fear. YMMV.
It's not an either/or proposition.

Spanking is the last resort to outright defiance. YMMV
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