Chiefs Hypothetical Part 4: Equivalent value for Patrick Mahomes II.

**Rain Man** · 11-25-2018, 01:39 PM

This is the fourth poll in a six-part series. Only two more and then we can stop this silliness.

Okay, we're not trading our franchise quarterback. Let's make that clear.

But if other teams were making us good-faith trade offers, what would be a fair offer? I've done the following to make some estimated trade packages, using the following algorithms.

I went to the NFL Network Top 100 players of last year. Recognizing that it includes some old declining players and at least one player who can't walk very well, and recognizing that Patrick Mahomes II is a young franchise quarterback, I'm assuming that Patrick Mahomes II is worth more than any player on the list, and generally worth much more.

If a team had three players on the list, I packaged those three players into an offer.

If a team had two players on the list, I added their 1st round pick from 2018.

If a team had one or zero players on the list, I packaged future 1st round picks so that the Chiefs would get three players in total.

If a team had more than three players on the list, I put together packages that added players in different scenarios until all of their top 100 players were included in a package.

By doing this, I came up with 60 total trade offers. I'll put them up in groups of 10, and your job is to assess whether or not it would be an equal or greater value than our own Patrick Mahomes II.

Important rule: Don't consider this poll as indicating that you would ACCEPT such a trade offer. Because trading Patrick Mahomes II would be insane. Just tell us whether you think those players would add equivalent value to the franchise.

Here's your fourth set of ten scenarios. A number of teams are upping their previous offers with players from the 2018 Top 100 list.

Best22 · 11-25-2018, 01:41 PM

A fair offer for Patrick Mahomes does not exist

**Rain Man** · 11-25-2018, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22

A fair offer for Patrick Mahomes does not exist

I landed there in this round, too. A couple of them catch my attention, but ... no.

I'm realizing that there are several Rams players that I don't like, and I'm realizing that you can have the Jaguars entire defense and still have no chance at a Super Bowl without a quarterback.

Valiant · 11-25-2018, 01:50 PM

Rams Is the closest, but I am ready to set up our own destiny.

smithandrew051 · 11-25-2018, 01:52 PM

Talib and Suh don’t provide much value to the Chiefs. They’re too old and a waste of money at this point. I’d be more enticed by the Rams offer with just Goff, Gurley, and Donald.

**Rain Man** · 11-25-2018, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Talib and Suh don’t provide much value to the Chiefs. They’re too old and a waste of money at this point. I’d be more enticed by the Rams offer with just Goff, Gurley, and Donald.

That's where I stand, too. The Eagles offer is interesting, but their other good players are not in areas of high enough positional value to warrant the drop at quarterback.

**Buehler445** · 11-25-2018, 04:17 PM

As a long suffering Chief Fan no way.

smithandrew051 · 11-25-2018, 04:22 PM

We have a great shot at having the number 1 player in next years top 100 player countdown. Can’t say I saw that coming.

Sofa King · 11-25-2018, 06:01 PM

I suggest adding a coach to the list as well. Maybe a good Def cordinator, Sean McVay, etc.

View Poll Results: These packages reflect good trade value for P. Mahomes II. (Check all that apply.)
Seahawks - Russell Wilson + Bobby Wagner + Earl Thomas + 2019 1st round	2	5.26%
Giants - Odell Beckham, Jr + Landon Collins + Saquon Barkley	1	2.63%
Dolphins - Cameron Wake + Minkah Fitzpatrick + 2019 1st Round	0	0%
Vikings - Adam Thielen + Harrison Smith + Xavier Rhodes + Stefon Diggs	0	0%
Eagles - Carson Wentz + Zach Ertz + Fletcher Cox + Lane Johnson	3	7.89%
Cardinals - Patrick Peterson + Larry Fitzgerald + Chandler Jones	0	0%
Jaguars - Calais Campbell + Jalen Ramsey + AJ Bouye + Leonard Fournette + Telvin Smith	0	0%
Rams - Todd Gurley + Aaron Donald + Jared Goff + Aqib Talib + Ndamukong Suh	8	21.05%
Saints - Drew Brees + Alvin Kamara + Cameron Jordan + Mark Ingram	1	2.63%
Steelers - Antonio Brown + Le'veon Bell + Ben Roethlisberger + David Decastro	0	0%
None of these represent equivalent value for Patrick Mahomes II.	21	55.26%
I once saw Patrick Mahomes throw a first down left handed.	17	44.74%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

11-25-2018, 01:39 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-612449 VARSITY	Hypothetical Part 4: Equivalent value for Patrick Mahomes II. This is the fourth poll in a six-part series. Only two more and then we can stop this silliness. Okay, we're not trading our franchise quarterback. Let's make that clear. But if other teams were making us good-faith trade offers, what would be a fair offer? I've done the following to make some estimated trade packages, using the following algorithms. I went to the NFL Network Top 100 players of last year. Recognizing that it includes some old declining players and at least one player who can't walk very well, and recognizing that Patrick Mahomes II is a young franchise quarterback, I'm assuming that Patrick Mahomes II is worth more than any player on the list, and generally worth much more. If a team had three players on the list, I packaged those three players into an offer. If a team had two players on the list, I added their 1st round pick from 2018. If a team had one or zero players on the list, I packaged future 1st round picks so that the Chiefs would get three players in total. If a team had more than three players on the list, I put together packages that added players in different scenarios until all of their top 100 players were included in a package. By doing this, I came up with 60 total trade offers. I'll put them up in groups of 10, and your job is to assess whether or not it would be an equal or greater value than our own Patrick Mahomes II. Important rule: Don't consider this poll as indicating that you would ACCEPT such a trade offer. Because trading Patrick Mahomes II would be insane. Just tell us whether you think those players would add equivalent value to the franchise. Here's your fourth set of ten scenarios. A number of teams are upping their previous offers with players from the 2018 Top 100 list.
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11-25-2018, 01:41 PM	#2
Best22 MVP Join Date: May 2016 Location: World Boxing Champs Casino cash: $1910400	A fair offer for Patrick Mahomes does not exist
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Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4532380	Rams Is the closest, but I am ready to set up our own destiny.
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11-25-2018, 01:52 PM	#5
smithandrew051 I Like The Kansas City Chiefs Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Shawnee, KS Casino cash: $-605600	Talib and Suh don’t provide much value to the Chiefs. They’re too old and a waste of money at this point. I’d be more enticed by the Rams offer with just Goff, Gurley, and Donald.
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11-25-2018, 04:17 PM	#7
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1525266	As a long suffering Chief Fan no way.
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11-25-2018, 04:22 PM	#8
smithandrew051 I Like The Kansas City Chiefs Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Shawnee, KS Casino cash: $-605600	We have a great shot at having the number 1 player in next years top 100 player countdown. Can’t say I saw that coming.
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11-25-2018, 06:01 PM	#9
Sofa King Bump it Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $-330000 VARSITY	I suggest adding a coach to the list as well. Maybe a good Def cordinator, Sean McVay, etc.
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