What to expect from Spags D....

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Spags, like every other good DC, needs talent to succeed. When he’d had talent, he’s been successful, and she he hasn’t had it he has not.

After this offseason, I have the confidence to say he will have the talent to succeed.

I also have no doubt that this defensive staff is a significant improvement and anybody who thinks otherwise doesn’t have a clue IMO.

The giants had talent. He finished 32nd in 2015, 10th in 2016, 31st in 2017 and 31st in 2018. At the very least they were too talented to finish last or 2nd to last 3 of the past 4 seasons. It's not like they were super talented in that ONE year and just awful before and after. The passing D in particular is ALWAYS bad with his defenses.

Yes, the staff is an improvement. Huge. I'm going to be annoyed when smart teams poach our talented assistants who will undoubtedly do the job better than Spags.

Nobody is going to convince me otherwise. Only Spags can do that with some consistent performances. One good season next year won't do it and 2008 was a long time ago.

His resume, outside of a superbowl win (which Greg Robinson also had) isn't impressive AT ALL.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

The giants had talent. He finished 32nd in 2015, 10th in 2016, 31st in 2017 and 31st in 2018. At the very least they were too talented to finish last or 2nd to last 3 of the past 4 seasons.

Yes, the staff is an improvement. Huge. I'm going to be annoyed when smart teams poach our talented assistants who will undoubtedly do the job better than Spags.

Nobody is going to convince me otherwise. Only Spags can do that with some consistent performances. One good season next year won't do it.

Umm he wasn’t their DC in 2018.

The entire team was a disaster in 2017, so that’s tough to put it on him. They quit on their HC.

The truth is, he’s been in some terrible situations and had a year to reflect and learn. He clearly used it wisely. Now he’s in one of the best situations imaginable with a great staff around him and a GM with an eye for talent.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Umm he wasn’t their DC in 2018.

The entire team was a disaster in 2017, so that’s tough to put it on him. They quit on their HC.

The truth is, he’s been in some terrible situations and had a year to reflect and learn. He clearly used it wisely. Now he’s in one of the best situations imaginable with a great staff around him and a GM with an eye for talent.

Good. I think he's over-rated. You think he's been held back by misfortune.

No point arguing since we're not going to agree. As I said, the proof will be in the pudding. At the very least the personnel make-over and new scheme will give KC a different look that teams will need time to catch up with. I think they'll have some success next year.

I still think if David Tyree doesn't make that catch nobody gives a **** about Steve Spagnuolo.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Umm he wasn’t their DC in 2018.

The entire team was a disaster in 2017, so that’s tough to put it on him. They quit on their HC.

The truth is, he’s been in some terrible situations and had a year to reflect and learn. He clearly used it wisely. Now he’s in one of the best situations imaginable with a great staff around him and a GM with an eye for talent.

Agree. I accidentally downvoted this post