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Old 07-25-2019, 03:01 PM   #1
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Your division is trash. Did you miss something? Did I miss something? Are we having this conversation in a reality you created to fit your narrative?

Back to the real world, your division is absolute garbage and has been for a looooong time. That's like bragging about beating up on reeruned kids.

gtfo with this shit.

Patriots have drilled everyone, inside the AFCE or not. You can ignore all the evidence if you want, but it is what it is.
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:08 PM   #2
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Patriots have drilled everyone, inside the AFCE or not. You can ignore all the evidence if you want, but it is what it is.
Yeah, basically getting five extra byes a year (Miami tends to play well at home) for over a decade never enters into it at all. Sorry, but that it is what it is too, douche.

Every year the division is gifted to the Cheatriots. No other team in the AFC East has been relevant forever. They draft poorly, trade poorly, are coached poorly, and for some reason never get any better. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though.
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:12 PM   #3
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Yeah, basically getting five extra byes a year (Miami tends to play well at home) for over a decade never enters into it at all. Sorry, but that it is what it is too, douche.
Right, because the Patriots would've STRUGGLED if they had, say, swapped with the Colts and had to deal with the Tits/Jags/Texans all those years. Oh wait, they've actually mopped the floor with them.

Just as they have the NFC North.

And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

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Old 07-25-2019, 03:15 PM   #4
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Right, because the Patriots would've STRUGGLED if they had, say, swapped with the Colts and had to deal with the Tits/Jags/Texans all those years. Oh wait, they've actually mopped the floor with them.

Just as they have the NFC North.

And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

Yeah, because vs. Jets/@ Bills/vs. Colts is exactly the same thing as vs. Broncos/@ Chargers/vs. Colts.

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Old 07-25-2019, 03:23 PM   #5
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Yeah, because vs. Jets/@ Bills/vs. Colts is exactly the same thing as vs. Broncos/@ Chargers/vs. Colts.

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What are you talking about? If the question is "has the AFC West been better than the AFC East for the last 20 years" then obviously the answer is yes. Not like that fact has robbed the Chiefs of any championships, but it's been a tougher road for you than for MOST teams in MOST divisions, because the AFC West has been one of hte better divisions over the last 20 years.

My point isn't AFCE > AFCW. It's that AFCE (other than Pats) isn't really any worse than AFCS (other than Peyton) or NFCN (other than Packers) over the last 20 years. Or NFCW (other than Seahawks) also, to be honest.

Painting the AFC East as the BY FAR worst division in the NFL over the last 20 years is just inaccurate.
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:50 PM   #6
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Painting the AFC East as the BY FAR worst division in the NFL over the last 20 years is just inaccurate.
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:28 PM   #7
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I cant imagine rooting for a team where in the post-season...you never even think of the refs screwing you out of a win. Their worst case scenario is an evenly called contest.

I cant imagine having zero penalties in their biggest game of the regular season...when there is evidence some were committed.

It really never crosses Patriot fans mind...that they could possibly lose because of the officials.

Its the #1 thing I worry about when the Chiefs play in important games...."how bad are they going to get ****ed ...and do they have a big enough lead to beat the calls".

Chiefs could have been to multiple SB if the refs decided to take game winning TDs off the board...or call bogus PI at critical junctures...or rule incomplete passes as legit.

NE is a good team...but their "dynasty" is heavily aided by beneficial calls.
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:18 PM   #8
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And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

I’m pretty sure my 49ers coworkers got sick of me talking about what an advantage SF had that they played in a weak ass division that let them not only coast to home field advantage but they could also rest their starters in the fourth quarter.
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Right, because the Patriots would've STRUGGLED if they had, say, swapped with the Colts and had to deal with the Tits/Jags/Texans all those years. Oh wait, they've actually mopped the floor with them.

Just as they have the NFC North.

And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

Actually that was the dominant argument, that indeed the 49ers waltzed into the playoffs every year.
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