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Old 08-05-2019, 08:50 AM   #1
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Cost?

The salary cost between the two players is fairly small. Ford’s contract is structured to be easier to get away from, but I’m not convinced he would taken the same deal from KC.

The draft capital cost is not negligible, but they did manage to upgrade their 2019 #3, and will still have the 49ers #2 for 2020.

Clark is going to add a big edge/attitude to this squad, which it needed. The Chiefs will still have a second round pick as a result of the two moves and it will in all likelihood be the higher of the two.

End of the day, the ledger is:

+ Frank Clark
+ 8 spots in 2019 3rd round
+ 20 spots in 2020 second round

- Dee Ford
- 2-3 million AAV, flexibility to cut player at no cost
- 2019 #30
- 2019 #6x
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:53 AM   #2
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The salary cost between the two players is fairly small. Ford’s contract is structured to be easier to get away from, but I’m not convinced he would taken the same deal from KC.

The draft capital cost is not negligible, but they did manage to upgrade their 2019 #3, and will still have the 49ers #2 for 2020.

Clark is going to add a big edge/attitude to this squad, which it needed. The Chiefs will still have a second round pick as a result of the two moves and it will in all likelihood be the higher of the two.
Ford got 20.5 gtd.

That's a bit different than Clark.

I doubt he'd have taken that deal here, but it's not that small
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Ford got 20.5 gtd.



That's a bit different than Clark.



I doubt he'd have taken that deal here, but it's not that small

In terms of yearly AAV is what I was referencing.

The structures work out more differently than. I was thinking. I had 5/95 in my head for ford’s potential overall payday when it’s 5/85.

Clark, as structured, actually saves them $8 million against the cap this season.

He’s 6-6.5 more the next two years, before the window to cut him opens.

They both can be walked away from after their age 29 seasons.
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In terms of yearly AAV is what I was referencing.

The structures work out more differently than. I was thinking. I had 5/95 in my head for ford’s potential overall payday when it’s 5/85.

Clark, as structured, actually saves them $8 million against the cap this season.

He’s 6-6.5 more the next two years, before the window to cut him opens.

They both can be walked away from after their age 29 seasons.
https://overthecap.com/player/frank-clark/3911/

Not really getting away from Clark until the age 30 year it looks like.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:27 AM   #5
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Not really getting away from Clark until the age 30 year it looks like.

The cap savings become a net positive before his age 29 year. Eating $10 million of dead cap isn’t ideal, but if he has gotten hurt or fallen way off the cliff it could be done.
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https://overthecap.com/player/frank-clark/3911/

Not really getting away from Clark until the age 30 year it looks like.
Clark is supposed to be a cornerstone....
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The salary cost between the two players is fairly small. Ford’s contract is structured to be easier to get away from, but I’m not convinced he would taken the same deal from KC.

The draft capital cost is not negligible, but they did manage to upgrade their 2019 #3, and will still have the 49ers #2 for 2020.

Clark is going to add a big edge/attitude to this squad, which it needed. The Chiefs will still have a second round pick as a result of the two moves and it will in all likelihood be the higher of the two.

End of the day, the ledger is:

+ Frank Clark
+ 8 spots in 2019 3rd round
+ 20 spots in 2020 second round

- Dee Ford
- 2-3 million AAV, flexibility to cut player at no cost
- 2019 #30
- 2019 #6x
The money you paid Clark has to factor in the value you missed out on by giving away the first as well.

It was a big package for Clark. It needs to work.
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