Chiefs Frank Clark ****ing sucks - Page 102

**RealSNR** · 09-15-2019, 02:33 PM

Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.

**RealSNR** · 10-14-2019, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BF88

Donkeys gonna have Lindsay juking Clark out of his cleats if he has to try and bring him down 1 on 1.

Will never happen. Clark would have to shed a block in order to bring down Lindsey 1 on 1

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-14-2019, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

And even Colquitt sucks now.

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Charles Omenihu was a guy that looked intriguing in the draft. A lot of folks here liked him even as a 2nd rd pick. He was taken in the 5th rd.

He has 2 sacks and looks really good. Oh and guess what? His cap hit is less than $1 million for the next 4 seasons.

Wanna know how to fix this mess? That’s how

Raises hand.

And now I'm gonna' puke.

Chris Meck · 10-15-2019, 07:07 AM

you guys are so reactionary.

Things are never as simple as many of you want to make them. It's not black and white.

Even good GM's make mistakes.

Even bad GM's occasionally hit on players.

Reid is one of the best coaches in football; and yes, he does have some weaknesses.

Veach is going to need to have a run of hits pretty damned soon; he's had a bunch of flops.

But you guys are so extreme. Dorsey was a good GM, but had some issues. Ballard is off to a good start, but the law of averages says he'll have his share of whiffs too.

Everything is not EITHER/OR.

It's much more complicated than that.

TEX · 10-15-2019, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

you guys are so reactionary.

Things are never as simple as many of you want to make them. It's not black and white.

Even good GM's make mistakes.

Even bad GM's occasionally hit on players.

Reid is one of the best coaches in football; and yes, he does have some weaknesses.

Veach is going to need to have a run of hits pretty damned soon; he's had a bunch of flops.

But you guys are so extreme. Dorsey was a good GM, but had some issues. Ballard is off to a good start, but the law of averages says he'll have his share of whiffs too.

Everything is not EITHER/OR.

It's much more complicated than that.

In general, yes. Especially over time. But within a window of opportunity, there is less room for error, otherwise you waste the opportunity.

RunKC · 10-15-2019, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

you guys are so reactionary.

Things are never as simple as many of you want to make them. It's not black and white.

Even good GM's make mistakes.

Even bad GM's occasionally hit on players.

Reid is one of the best coaches in football; and yes, he does have some weaknesses.

Veach is going to need to have a run of hits pretty damned soon; he's had a bunch of flops.

But you guys are so extreme. Dorsey was a good GM, but had some issues. Ballard is off to a good start, but the law of averages says he'll have his share of whiffs too.

Everything is not EITHER/OR.

It's much more complicated than that.

People are shitting all over Veach for Frank Clark, which is rightfully due, but I think he’s done some good this offseason.

Hardman was a good pick, Thornhill was a good pick, Ogbah was a good trade and Martinas Rankin actually looked pretty decent on Sunday. He looked A LOT better than Wylie.

Its early but the way that guy played made me feel like we might have a solution at LG (finally).

Chris Meck · 10-15-2019, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

People are shitting all over Veach for Frank Clark, which is rightfully due, but I think he’s done some good this offseason.

Hardman was a good pick, Thornhill was a good pick, Ogbah was a good trade and Martina’s Rankin actually looked pretty decent on Sunday. He looked A LOT better than Wylie.

Its early but the way that guy played made me feel like we might have a solution at LG (finally).

Yeah, I agree.

I don't know what the deal is with Clark. It was a LOT to give up, but he should be a very, very good player right in his prime. So far...he's meh.

Not sold on Rankin, but it's hard to tell with the dumpster fire to his left. Wisniewski should be at least quality depth; and I'd think better than Rankin.

The inability to stop the run is really frustrating. We just can't control the line of scrimmage at all.

mcaj22 · 10-15-2019, 09:12 AM

Hes worse than meh. Its a collossial failure so far considering the picks and 100 million contract given up. Especially if that language in his contract is true and they are stuck with him until 2022.

**notorious** · 10-15-2019, 09:16 AM

100 MILLION

Good Lord that’s horrifying!

mcaj22 · 10-15-2019, 09:21 AM

yea Clark is getting paid in JJ Watt, Fletcher Cox, Demarcus Lawrence territory and despite that propaganda from the front office where they said hes in that tier, the reality is, hes not close.

Someone in either an analytics or film department screwed up.

suzzer99 · 10-15-2019, 10:05 AM

https://fansided.com/2019/10/15/chan...ls-star-stats/

Can we trade for Chandler Jones?

DJ's left nut · 10-15-2019, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea Clark is getting paid in JJ Watt, Fletcher Cox, Demarcus Lawrence territory and despite that propaganda from the front office where they said hes in that tier, the reality is, hes not close.

Someone in either an analytics or film department screwed up.

He's closer to Ogbah than Watt.

Is he any better than Allen Bailey was last year? I'm serious.

This just really sucks. This guy really should be fun to root for and he's just...there. Ugh.

Buckweath · 10-15-2019, 10:32 AM

Not saying he was good or bad but PFF rated him 89 the last game. I think they said it was one of his better grades ever.

dlphg9 · 10-15-2019, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Not saying he was good or bad but PFF rated him 89 the last game. I think they said it was one of his better grades ever.

Maybe they mean he had an 89 grade for the 1st play. That had to be one of his better first plays ever.

Buckweath · 10-15-2019, 10:36 AM

Wow just seen that Pro Football Reference gives him 3 QB hits so far this season, on pace for 8 all season.

He had respectively 18, 21 and 27 the last three seasons. Ugh..

I mean if he didn't have the sacks but had the hits it would be one thing but yeah nothing.

crayzkirk · 10-15-2019, 10:36 AM

We're fine...

Andy will fix this.

09-15-2019, 02:33 PM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1444792	Frank Clark ing sucks Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs. Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays. At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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10-15-2019, 07:07 AM	#1518
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1285090	you guys are so reactionary. Things are never as simple as many of you want to make them. It's not black and white. Even good GM's make mistakes. Even bad GM's occasionally hit on players. Reid is one of the best coaches in football; and yes, he does have some weaknesses. Veach is going to need to have a run of hits pretty damned soon; he's had a bunch of flops. But you guys are so extreme. Dorsey was a good GM, but had some issues. Ballard is off to a good start, but the law of averages says he'll have his share of whiffs too. Everything is not EITHER/OR. It's much more complicated than that.
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10-15-2019, 09:12 AM	#1522
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	Hes worse than meh. Its a collossial failure so far considering the picks and 100 million contract given up. Especially if that language in his contract is true and they are stuck with him until 2022.
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10-15-2019, 09:16 AM	#1523
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-884116	100 MILLION Good Lord that’s horrifying!
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10-15-2019, 09:21 AM	#1524
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	yea Clark is getting paid in JJ Watt, Fletcher Cox, Demarcus Lawrence territory and despite that propaganda from the front office where they said hes in that tier, the reality is, hes not close. Someone in either an analytics or film department screwed up.
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10-15-2019, 10:05 AM	#1525
suzzer99 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: L.A. Casino cash: $-715716	https://fansided.com/2019/10/15/chan...ls-star-stats/ Can we trade for Chandler Jones?
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10-15-2019, 10:32 AM	#1527
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Not saying he was good or bad but PFF rated him 89 the last game. I think they said it was one of his better grades ever.
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10-15-2019, 10:36 AM	#1529
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Wow just seen that Pro Football Reference gives him 3 QB hits so far this season, on pace for 8 all season. He had respectively 18, 21 and 27 the last three seasons. Ugh.. I mean if he didn't have the sacks but had the hits it would be one thing but yeah nothing.
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10-15-2019, 10:36 AM	#1530
crayzkirk MVP Join Date: Nov 2016 Casino cash: $930000	We're fine... Andy will fix this.
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