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Old 01-05-2020, 07:33 PM   #1
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The incentive to keep racking up penalties and fines isn't big if you're just trying to rough a qb up. The incentive is HUGE if theres a good chance you can knock him out of the game. Especially since a qb is arguably the most important in all sports.
You still aren't addressing the whole dirty hits concern. Why would removing the protocol make players not hit dirty? The only thing that would change if they removed the protocol is that they'd be able to hit the QB even more after the initial concussion. I don't see how that's a solution.
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:41 PM   #2
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You still aren't addressing the whole dirty hits concern. Why would removing the protocol make players not hit dirty? The only thing that would change if they removed the protocol is that they'd be able to hit the QB even more after the initial concussion. I don't see how that's a solution.
Because there's a huge difference between knocking a player out of the game and forcing a 40 year old backup to play vs. Chipping away at the starter hoping he plays less effectively. Everyone knows the eagles game ended as soon as McCown went in. That is a monumentally huge "ejection."
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:44 PM   #3
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Because there's a huge difference between knocking a player out of the game and forcing a 40 year old backup to play vs. Chipping away at the starter hoping he plays less effectively. Everyone knows the eagles game ended as soon as McCown went in. That is a monumentally huge "ejection."

So if Mahomes looks like he has a concussion, you'd rather him go back out there and get ****ed up some more?
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:47 PM   #4
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So if Mahomes looks like he has a concussion, you'd rather him go back out there and get ****ed up some more?
That is his decision to make. Based on good, thorough, impartial medical advice. Up to a certain limit of course. Do you really think Brett Favre didn't play through a million hits that by today's standards would be considered concussions?
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:05 PM   #5
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That is his decision to make. Based on good, thorough, impartial medical advice. Up to a certain limit of course. Do you really think Brett Favre didn't play through a million hits that by today's standards would be considered concussions?
A player who may be suffering a concussion shouldn't make the call on if they want to keep playing. 1

And I'd rather Mahomes have a long career and life so if the concussion protocol is needed to protect himself from himself, then it is what it is.
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Old 01-05-2020, 09:23 PM   #6
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That is his decision to make. Based on good, thorough, impartial medical advice. Up to a certain limit of course. Do you really think Brett Favre didn't play through a million hits that by today's standards would be considered concussions?
What if the player is not in a state to make an intelligent decision because of their condition? Who makes a call on when a player is or isn't capable of advocating for themselves? Where is the line?

I also don't like using the past and how people "got by" as an argument for why we should keep doing things that way. If you have better information than you did in the past, use it.
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Old 01-05-2020, 09:41 PM   #7
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What if the player is not in a state to make an intelligent decision because of their condition? Who makes a call on when a player is or isn't capable of advocating for themselves? Where is the line?

I also don't like using the past and how people "got by" as an argument for why we should keep doing things that way. If you have better information than you did in the past, use it.
I never said make it completely on the player. Like I said, obviously there's a limit. Kelce vs Tennessee was brutally obvious that he shouldn't have gone back in. I don't know where that line is. None of us really do. But would it surprise you if that line wasn't drawn way more conservatively than it needs to just to add extra cushion to liability?
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I never said make it completely on the player. Like I said, obviously there's a limit. Kelce vs Tennessee was brutally obvious that he shouldn't have gone back in. I don't know where that line is. None of us really do. But would it surprise you if that line wasn't drawn way more conservatively than it needs to just to add extra cushion to liability?
The line is where the independent numerologist says that the player had a concussion.
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That is his decision to make. Based on good, thorough, impartial medical advice. Up to a certain limit of course. Do you really think Brett Favre didn't play through a million hits that by today's standards would be considered concussions?
Brett has a photographic memory, and apparently doesn't remember an entire season due to concussions.
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