How to play this off-season with free agency?

[Walt White]

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He is almost a 6 million dollar cap hit, can you justify that for a 3rd safety?

Yes. Thornhill won’t be back until mid season at best and I trust Dan to be a solid #2 back there.

We don’t have to get rid of literally everybody bc we are paying Pat

[wachashi]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Jones is worth more than that for compensation.

Maybe, but I'm operating under the assumption that Jones will command less in draft capital than Clark did, given the positions they play.

Frank Clark: Pick 30 (620 value points) + future second
Chris Jones: Pick 27 (680 value points) + future fourth

DRAFTEK

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I think we already have his replacement in Rankin. He looked great until his injury. Sign Wis to a one year deal to start at the other guard. Reiter becomes the weak link then.

Wiz is gonna want to get paid too. We can’t pay everyone. This is Reiters last year tho. This team is gonna look really different next year

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Lose our 2nd best receiver who just balled out in the playoffs, And take a Huge cap hit?

Cutting him would save $14M on the cap. They very well might need this money to fill out the roster with solid players.

[kcclone]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

No, I wouldn't take more money to go to a less rewarding situation (assuming I already had more than enough).

And I know I'd be in the minority among these greedy bastards, but I'd definitely be the type to take a big hometown discount to stay with Reid/Mahomes and build a dynasty.

The d-bags need to realize that they're already far wealthier than they have any right to be.

What?

You sound like a communist here. What is the proper amount of wealth they they have the "right to" in your opinion?

You do realize the following don't you?:

1- You (and I and other fans) pay their salaries via ticket sales, TV viewership, gear, etc

2- Their bodies and brains take a beating that cuts their life and quality of life shorter than most careers.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Wiz is gonna want to get paid too. We can’t pay everyone. This is Reiters last year tho. This team is gonna look really different next year

Says ****ing who? Dude was sitting out there until we signed him. I highly doubt he’s out there looking to break the bank.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Cutting him would save $14M on the cap. They very well might need this money to fill out the roster with solid players.

Beat me to it.

Veach can’t (and won’t) become a prisoner of the moment. We all love what Watkins has done in every playoff game as a Chief, but he disappears for long stretches every season and is constantly battling injuries.

We can’t pay him this much for another season. Hardman will have to step up as a true number 2 (and I think he will).

There are really 3 options:

-release
-renegotiate
-trade

He won’t be back at his current price tag.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Says ****ing who? Dude was sitting out there until we signed him. I highly doubt he’s out there looking to break the bank.

I bet we can get him on a decent 1-year deal. Then draft his replacement next year.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by kcclone

What?

You sound like a communist here. What is the proper amount of wealth they they have the "right to" in your opinion?

You do realize the following don't you?:

1- You (and I and other fans) pay their salaries via ticket sales, TV viewership, gear, etc

2- Their bodies and brains take a beating that cuts their life and quality of life shorter than most careers.

No shit man - these guys are risking life-long physical and mental disability for our entertainment. They deserve every cent they can get.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Says ****ing who? Dude was sitting out there until we signed him. I highly doubt he’s out there looking to break the bank.

And he balled out in the playoffs. He is gonna command some money now

[Randallflagg]

Originally Posted by kcclone

What?

You sound like a communist here. What is the proper amount of wealth they they have the "right to" in your opinion?

You do realize the following don't you?:

1- You (and I and other fans) pay their salaries via ticket sales, TV viewership, gear, etc

2- Their bodies and brains take a beating that cuts their life and quality of life shorter than most careers.

While I absolutely agree with your first point, I have to take exception with the second. They are not "required" to play football. They have chosen that. The beating they take comes with the job and they accept that. But I do agree that their careers are relatively short - and they make as much as they can while they can. Can't fault them at all.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Yes. Thornhill won’t be back until mid season at best and I trust Dan to be a solid #2 back there.

We don’t have to get rid of literally everybody bc we are paying Pat

Look at our cap numbers for next year, we have several huge ones, you throw in a new Mahomes contract unless there are multiple cuts we won't even be able to fill out a 53.

Frank Clark's cap hit is taking a monster leap this off-season.

2019: $6.5M
2020: $22.7M

Sammy
$19.2
$21

Schwartz
$6.43
$10.82

Fisher
$7.04
$14.98

Mahomes
$4.48
$5.23

Hitchens
$5.23
$12.69

— Josh Webb (@shwebb29) February 7, 2020

That also doesn't even show Mathieu's number which ramps up.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Do we even re sign Pat knowing what he wants?? We’re not gonna have a team. We’re gonna have vet min signings at near every single position

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Do we even re sign Pat knowing what he wants?? We’re not gonna have a team. We’re gonna have vet min signings at near every single position

......

If you make the moves I suggested you can get up to nearly 40 mill of space, If you give Mahomes a 20 mill base in year 1 then you still have money to work with and you'll get some more money back that next year.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Cutting him would save $14M on the cap. They very well might need this money to fill out the roster with solid players.

7 Million in Dead Cap money- plus losing our 2nd best WR. That was my point. I am not advocating keeping him at 21 million.

Sammy has all the leverage. I am not sure any team will trade for him with that kind of salary due.