***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mennonite]

Prince's song "P. Control" was actually a plea for government sanctioned prairie dog extermination.

[LiveSteam]

Ive never been on P-dog shoot.
Would love to go sometime.
Would trade my Yote calling skills for a day or two on the dog town.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by F150

Nice job explaining! They can destroy native grass prairies because they eat the grass below the growing point

Shooting is excellent sport and is an alternative to poisoning the dog towns

They also are a prime vector of plague.

Yeah, forgot about the plague thing. We had our population near Seligman test positive for plague so they had to close the season early for testing last year. Really sucked. Made all those bullets and nothing to shoot.

[F150]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Ive never been on P-dog shoot.
Would love to go sometime.
Would trade my Yote calling skills for a day or two on the dog town.

Some excellent times on the Pine Ridge shooting dogs.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Ive never been on P-dog shoot.
Would love to go sometime.
Would trade my Yote calling skills for a day or two on the dog town.

You make a pimp coat yet?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Ive never been on P-dog shoot.
Would love to go sometime.
Would trade my Yote calling skills for a day or two on the dog town.

It's a lot of fun. And dead easy compared to a lot of hunting. It's basically banker's hours, no need for camo, don't have to try and hide yourself at all, or worry about making to much noise. Just find a good size town and set up about 150 yards away or more and have at it. Where I go we try to set up so that there are at least 3 towns within range at the same time. Start on the far one first and work in.

[TLO]

Is this slowly morphing into a food thread?

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

It's a lot of fun. And dead easy compared to a lot of hunting. It's basically banker's hours, no need for camo, don't have to try and hide yourself at all, or worry about making to much noise. Just find a good size town and set up about 150 yards away or more and have at it. Where I go we try to set up so that there are at least 3 towns within range at the same time. Start on the far one first and work in.

Nice. Ive watched a lot of P-dog shooting vids on YouTube. And subscribe to guy up in SD called CaveDwelller on YouTube. Hes a rifle building, hand loading , dog shooten SOB. His youtube page is excellent.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by TLO

Is this slowly morphing into a food thread?

Would you like to come over to my place for a nice Y2K dinner?
Im a great cook of 30 plus year old food.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Nice. Ive watched a lot of P-dog shooting vids on YouTube. And subscribe to guy up in SD called CaveDwelller on YouTube. Hes a rifle building, hand loading , dog shooten SOB. His youtube page is excellent.

Thanks, I'll have to check it out.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by TLO

Is this slowly morphing into a food thread?

when the dead begin to walk the earth it will be a food thread for sure

"anyone think there might be non-perishables in clark's apartment at arrowhead?"

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

There are 3,287 deaths a day...globally, in traffic accidents. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled, annually.

But lets whip the sheeple into a frenzy...the Autotransit virus has claimed 22,500 lives this week and there is no cure.

Quite the whataboutism. As if people aren't working to reduce Auto fatalities

[TLO]

So a question that maybe someone can help me gain some perspective on.

I've read in multiple places that it's possible the virus has been circulating in Washington State for up to 6 weeks. If the mortality rate was that high, wouldn't there have been someone who noticed even before the first confirmed case?

[TLO]

And for that matter, wouldn't it be plausible that it's circulating in a lot of communities, possibly with minimal effects?

I'm very much an anxious person when it comes to my health and the health of those close to me. I'm young, and don't have a lot of medical issues - so I do worry for myself, but I worry for those around me too.

Should I be worried? Can someone just spell that out for me?

[Mennonite]

Originally Posted by TLO

Should I be worried? Can someone just spell that out for me?

W-E-A-R-E-F-U-C-K-E-D