***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Roundup]

Mennonite made a comment about Arkansas. I was responding in kind. He deleted his message so I responded in kind and deleted my message.

[mr. tegu]

Shopping report. Costco wasn’t too much worse than a Saturday afternoon. The main thing was just how much stuff they were out of. Almost no meat, no fresh chicken at all, some frozen chicken left but not much, very little frozen vegetables left, and of course no toilet paper or paper towels. Plenty of water and most other things it looked like but I didn’t check for wipes or sanitizer which were surely gone.

Target was similar as far as how busy it was. Not terrible but there is just a feeling of stress and anxiety in the air. The had basically no dried or canned beans and some certain soups. Also had almost no fresh meats left.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It specifically says "will be" in the tweet.

What I see on my screen from that tweet from "The Hill"

JUST IN: Ohio health official estimates 100,000 people in state have coronavirus http://hill.cm/zU4OKZ9

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by BWillie

If anybody over 59 is playing live poker in a casino right now, they are a ****ing idiot. There are currently 7 poker games going on in Kansas City right now.

OMG, my son and I had this exact discussion today. We were supposed to play in a tournament tonight. The only thing gonna save that place is the fact that the guys going there are all degenerate gamblers.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

What I see on my screen from that tweet from "The Hill"

JUST IN: Ohio health official estimates 100,000 people in state have coronavirus http://hill.cm/zU4OKZ9

That would be on the level of China. If they said that, they're mistaken.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’ve grown tired of answering your questions like I’m FOS. It was widely reported. Google it my good man.

Personally I think you very well may be FOS, but I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

When posting relevant information, it's generally nice to have a link to click on to read the full story as well.

[Chiefspants]

My school district just cancelled next week and that’s likely to be followed by the entire Pikes Peak region. Time to jam out to some REM for a while.

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

the head physician for Congress and the SCOTUS said yesterday in a private meeting with congressional staff to expect 75+million infected here in the USA.

I’ve been told by a former colleague to “hold onto my butt” it’s going to get rough.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

That would be on the level of China. If they said that, they're mistaken.

They even have a story up on it.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...mpression=true

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

My school district just cancelled next week and that’s likely to be followed by the entire Pikes Peak region. Time to jam out to some REM for a while.

The college I work at is one of the last ones in the state of Arkansas that is still having seated classes. I expect them to cancel those and go all online only by Monday. We are likely to follow suit with UA and ASU and stay that way through the end of the semester.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

They even have a story up on it.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...mpression=true

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

Personally I think you very well may be FOS, but I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

When posting relevant information, it's generally nice to have a link to click on to read the full story as well.

if you still think I’m FOS after the posts today, your minds never going to be changed. 100’s of people on here know me in real
Life. None of those are calling me out. You should consider that.

That’s okay if we are never best buddies. Life goes on. Just don’t expect me to answer your questions.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DaFace

That would be on the level of China. If they said that, they're mistaken.

How many people in China actually got tested?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Shopping report. Costco wasn’t too much worse than a Saturday afternoon.

The Costco in Burbank was so packed that there was no parking and people were fighting over toilet paper, even though there was a sign at the entrance stating "1 Toilet Paper Only - No exceptions".

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

How many people in China actually got tested?

No clue, but they've had over 3,000 people die. I think we'd know it if Ohio had 3,000 people dying.