***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[KChiefs1]

We need Weird Al to do a My Corona cover of My Sharona.

[adalah]

Coronavirus destroys everything

[displacedinMN]

Trump on....no matter what he says,,,,it will be the wrong thing

[TLO]

Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

This

Finally the core of the matter is starting to sink in.
Mortality rate in Italy is up to about 10% with an almost equal distribution of deaths in the population over 50.
Which I would not consider neither "elderly nor "vulnerable"

How about for ages younger than 50?

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by adalah

Coronavirus destroys everything

Certainly destroying my 401k

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Donger

That isn't probable at all. Stop it.

40 to 70% of Americans are going to get this. To say that 1% will die is being on the safe side right now.

You do the math.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

We need Weird Al to do a My Corona cover of My Sharona.

That's funny i was thinking that earlier

[BigRedChief]

They just put a WHO graphic up on the news that showed Italy vs. USA timeline of the number of cases reported. Matched exactly. If the timeline here stays the same..... we are ****ed.

[synthesis2]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Certainly destroying my 401k

I guess that is what I am trying to understand and I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all but if is truly is a killer of elderly /nursing home / people in rough shape already why are we so concerned to ruin our economy and life’s of people who are healthy with young kids to raise? I mean it sounds horrible to say but they have lived a good long life but if it hurts everyone because a small number of sick may die a little early? I know to simplistic but I need more info

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

So from a extremely ignorant point of view I guess I am struggling with why this is such a horrible virus. It sounds like 95 plus percentage of deaths are old people with current problems. These are the people (for the most part) that quality of life is poor to bad right now. Why is it such a big deal if some of these people die a week/month or year early when their quality of life is bad anyway? If I end up in that same situation I would much rather just meet my maker then rot in a nursing home.

I seriously doubt you would say the same thing if you got the coronavirus and were quarantined.

There's obviously a lot going on that they are not telling us in order to have the public not panic anymore than it already has.

[synthesis2]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

They just put a WHO graphic up on the news that showed Italy vs. USA timeline of the number of cases reported. Matched exactly. If the timeline here stays the same..... we are ****ed.

But if under 50 and healthy then .3 percent chance of death? I’ll take it

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Every single one of us is probably going to end up personally knowing someone who dies from this. Let that sink in for a minute..

Wouldn't that require all of to first know at least 97 people who have contracted it?

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

I guess that is what I am trying to understand and I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all but if is truly is a killer of elderly /nursing home / people in rough shape already why are we so concerned to ruin our economy and life’s of people who are healthy with young kids to raise? I mean it sounds horrible to say but they have lived a good long life but if it hurts everyone because a small number of sick may die a little early? I know to simplistic but I need more info

I have a simple answer but it's political and will keep it out of this non DC thread

[synthesis2]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I seriously doubt you would say the same thing if you got the coronavirus and were quarantined.

There's obviously a lot going on that they are not telling us in order to have the public not panic anymore than it already has.

Right being quarantined would stink for sure but if you recover just fine then ?? If there is more they are not telling them I agree . Just want to know what info I am missing

[Fish]

I don't really give one single shit about your 401k if it means my grandparent's life is on the line.