***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rasputin]

[Donger]

It's a line many New Yorkers know well: "if you cannot fit on this train, there is another right behind."

Many straphangers, having had the wool pulled over their eyes before, aren't keen to take the conductors' advice. Soon, however, they may not have a choice.

Police officers will begin enforcing social distancing on subways this week, Mayor Bill de Blasio said Monday, despite complaints from essential workers that their usual trains have been packed following coronavirus-induced service cuts.

"I understand people are trying to get somewhere, but no one should be getting on a crowded train," the mayor told local station NY1. "Spread out throughout the train, wait for the next train.

"The PD's going to go out there, if they see any overcrowding, they're going to literally split it up, pull people off the train, move them along to different cars, whatever it takes."

On top of service cuts that have been deemed "essential service" for restaurant workers, healthcare professionals and others who must commute during the "New York on Pause" issued by the governor earlier in March, many lines have seen even less service thanks to limited availability of train crews.

"We are running as many trains as possible with the crews we have available," the Metropolitan Transit Authority said in service alerts Monday.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Monticore

It might all we need is one doctor to tweet his findings.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I see this aged well...

I play Golden Tee Golf on my phone. I've spent $30 on the game.

I'm now one of those guys.

I am ashamed.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Anyone who still believe CCP numbers is fooling themselves

Agree!

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Mecca

While I think many reports are completely overblown that it's total doom it's kind of insane to be the other way too.

The overreaction side is way more significant than the side downplaying the threat.

Exhibit A is the fact that most updates on new COVID-19 cases leave out the important context of how many of these new cases are severe/requiring hospitalization.

Cases vs. severe cases requiring hospitalization... that is the distinction that needs to be made with every update.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I play Golden Tee Golf on my phone. I've spent $30 on the game.

I'm now one of those guys.

I am ashamed.

Don't play games on your phone......that's the scumming of video gaming.

[Jerm]

I don't know what's worse, nails on a chalkboard or hearing Mike Parsons attempt to complete sentences. Jesus Christ...

[Mecca]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...craft-carrier/

Apparently a bunch of sailors on the theodore roosevelt have tested positive and the captain is at his wits end because nothing is being done.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Mecca

People in India are drinking cow piss cause they think it will protect them.

I think they have seen one to many episodes of Man Vs Wild with Bear Grylls.

[carlos3652]

Austin check out Covidly.com they have some awesome graphs and you can play with the data.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Don't play games on your phone......that's the scumming of video gaming.

Golden Tee is actually a pretty good game, but I agree. They actually let you play 9-holes anytime you want without you having to pay or do anything unlike all other app golf games.

I don't own any gaming systems. I don't think I can play it on my laptop or desktop, either. So here I am playing games and paying for them on my phone like a fool.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Jerm

I don't know what's worse, nails on a chalkboard or hearing Mike Parsons attempt to complete sentences. Jesus Christ...

His jowls and largely exposed bottom teeth really turn me on.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Golden Tee is actually a pretty good game, but I agree. They actually let you play 9-holes anytime you want without you having to pay or do anything unlike all other app golf games.

I don't own any gaming systems. I don't think I can play it on my laptop or desktop, either. So here I am playing games and paying for them on my phone like a fool.

The Golf Club 2019 is a pretty good PC golf game and you can find it on Steam for $20 often. Not right now though, it's $50.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Also I'm going to say this so don't get butthurt. Marcellus is like the Undertaker of this thread, just no sell no sell.

While I think many reports are completely overblown that it's total doom it's kind of insane to be the other way too.

Nah I am just pragmatic and not prone to hysteria.

Its obvious NY and highly populated areas are in real danger of being overrun with large numbers.

Rest homes and the like are potential super hot spots as well.

I just think treating small towns in the midwest the exact same as urban areas doesn't make much sense at all.