***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Not gonna peak in Missouri til May 21? How did they come up with that?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by F150

https://www.facebook.com/fred.parry1...21186978006123


Outstanding worth reading

From that link:

3) to be fully recovered means that you have shown NO symptoms for at least seven consecutive days, you have not had a fever and you've tested negative on at least two follow-up tests. Again, we have 30 people who have already met this criteria. More to come.

This means very little, considering there are people like me (and I know nearly 10 others) who doctors are positive have CV but have tested negative or not been tested at all because their symptoms aren't severe.

I mean, it sounds great but we have no ****ing clue how many/who actually has it.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

From that link:



This means very little, considering there are people like me (and I know nearly 10 others) who doctors are positive have CV but have tested negative or not been tested at all because their symptoms aren't severe.

I mean, it sounds great but we have no ****ing clue how many/who actually has it.

How are you feeling today?

[O.city]

Shit otwp is still alive

Not ideal for my pappys

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by TLO

How are you feeling today?

First day without a headache, so that's a positive. Other symptoms haven't really changed though. Fluctuations in temp seem to be steadying. I've been between 99.3 and 100.1 all day.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Not gonna peak in Missouri til May 21? How did they come up with that?

Darts at a board....

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by TLO

Lysol that shit

yeah, like I can get lysol.

I put on a glove and pulled it and dropped it in a coffe can and sprayed it with bleach and put a lid on it.

i'll let it sit for a few days .

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Shit otwp is still alive

Not ideal for my pappys

Underestimating me, as always.

[BigRedChief]

A major hospital in KC has developed a point system to decide who gets a ventilator and who doesnt when/if they run out of ventilators. Most area KC hospitals will adopt a similar point system.

It’s expected that here in the USA and England, most hospitals will use a point system instead of the Doctors opinion of whoever happens to be on duty. Trying to make it a more clinical decision, take emotion out of the decision.

Italy had that issue. If the patients family was there, the doctor knew them personally, was a politician, etc. they could get a ventilator even if they had long odds to survive or ever come off the vent. Which meant others didn’t get a vent. So two lives were lost instead of just one.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by O.city

Not gonna peak in Missouri til May 21? How did they come up with that?

Who knows, but same site has Kansas peaking a full three weeks earlier. Essentially has us being "over" the virus by end of May, but Missouri looks like end of June.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

A major hospital in KC has developed a point system to decide who gets a ventilator and who doesnt when/if they run out of ventilators. Most area KC hospitals will adopt a similar point system.

It’s expected that here in the USA and England, most hospitals will use a point system instead of the Doctors opinion of whoever happens to be on duty. Trying to make it a more clinical decision, take emotion out of the decision.

Italy had that issue. If the patients family was there, the doctor knew them personally, was a politician, etc. they could get a ventilator even if they had long odds to survive or ever come off the vent. Which meant others didn’t get a vent. So two lives were lost instead of just one.

Yeah, let's get to the IF first......hopefully it never happens

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Underestimating me, as always.

You getting any better?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by kgrund

Who knows, but same site has Kansas peaking a full three weeks earlier. Essentially has us being "over" the virus by end of May, but Missouri looks like end of June.

Kansas locked down earlier? Maybe that’s why?

[notorious]

Missouri has a LOT more people and are more densely grouped than Kansas.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Kansas locked down earlier? Maybe that’s why?

The KC Metro area locked down first including both sides of the state line. It was a week or so later before the entire state of Ks was locked down. Mo still hasn't locked down the state.