***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's incredibly unlikely that we'll be in this level of lockdown for a year.

I would say after the end of this month the lockdown will need to ease up in certain ways.

The severity of the lockdown cannot continue in its current form.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Predictable response by a predictable poster.


01/30/2020 | 11:37am EDT
By Michael S. Derby

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York added $82.58 billion in new liquidity to financial markets Thursday, but the overall outstanding amount of interventions held roughly steady.

The Fed's money entered eligible banks' coffers in two ways. One was an overnight repurchase-agreement operation, or repo, that totaled $48.78 billion, the other was via a $33.80 billion 14-day repo.

In both cases so-called primary dealers took less than the Fed offered. Due to the expiration of past interventions, overall temporary central-bank liquidity ticked down $1.5 billion to $173.7 billion.

Fed repo interventions take in Treasurys, agency and mortgage bonds from the dealers, in what is effectively a short-term loan of central-bank cash, collateralized by the bonds. Primary dealers are limited in the amount of liquidity they can


The too-big-to-fail banks were in trouble months ago, but they get the benefit of direct access to bailout money thanks to FOMC owing to the fact that they've been deemed... too big to fail.

First Bank of Hooterville though? Nope. They get shut down and their assets get sucked up.

I think your name should be changed to Charon, personally.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

So if you are on stay at home you can go for a run but they don’t want you going for a drive...


Seems idiotic.

Seems like you are far more socially distanced in a car, especially if you are driving yourself.

[Demonpenz]

is being jewish an underlying condition?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I would say after the end this month the lockdown will need to ease up in certain ways.

This severity of the lockdown cannot continue in its current form.

Several school districts, the city and state all currently are set to lift everything on the 24th. I hope at that time major changes are made. We may start getting to a point were we see some civil unrest.

[Demonpenz]

I am thinking we are going the oppo way. More shit will be shutdown

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Several school districts, the city and state all currently are set to lift everything on the 24th. I hope at that time major.chamges are made. We may start getting to a point were we see some civil unrest.

Ha. Ain't nobody nobody going back to school this year.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Donger

I think your name should be changed to Charon, personally.

Can we make this his avatar while we’re at it?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Ha. Ain't nobody nobody going back to school this year.

Well, this pretty much guarantees a big yellow bus will be pulling up to the house that day.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Ha. Ain't nobody nobody going back to school this year.

the way I understand it is the building will be open but not classes. That is the way I read the closed sign though

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

We may start getting to a point were we see some civil unrest.

Every country in the world is doing the same social distancing that we are doing. People know this. what evidence or anything at all do you have that shows American citizens are going to be violent because they don’t like staying at home watching too much TV?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I would say after the end of this month the lockdown will need to ease up in certain ways.

The severity of the lockdown cannot continue in its current form.

That's not happening in the Tri-State area nor is it happening in California.

Kansas, Ohio and others have shutdown their schools for the remainder of the academic school years and non-essential businesses are being shuttered all over the country to reduce the spread.

Those states, like Florida, which have waited to enact such policies could be Hot Spots by the end of April.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Every country in the world is doing the same social distancing that we are doing. People know this. what evidence or anything at all do you have that shows American citizens are going to be violent because they don’t like staying at home watching too much TV?

Well when they can’t afford food or their mortgage I’d guess

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Well, this pretty much guarantees a big yellow bus will be pulling up to the house that day.

False

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well when they can’t afford food or their mortgage I’d guess

even before this most people lived paycheck to paycheck. Chiefsplanet makes it seem like everyone has a nice 401k and 6 months saving and a dependable job. In the real world people barely get by.