***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[notorious]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Hopefully I misunderstood him or I am taking him out of context but that's sure what it sounded like. If anyone can correct it then go for it.

I’ve heard it from others. They are completely detached from reality.

[2112]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Some people aren't. I'm sure at some point in the future we'll prob see some numbers on what % have and have not but as far as I can tell the majority of people are doing the SD thing.

Yeah, I live in NJ and it’s bad here. And people are getting busted by the cops for having gatherings (40 people and they were adults). And just Monday I’m the first one in shopping at 6am to get bananas and milk and this guy tries leaning over me to get a plastic bag while there’s like 15 plastic bag dispensers with nobody around. I wanted to kill that guy. And I hear the same stories from friends. You can’t fix stupid

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm sure people were expecting unemployment to increase dramatically. And, when they learn of the actual numbers, sure they have reactions like, "Wow, that's a lot."

And as I said, what did you expect? All these businesses get shut down, people get told to say home and we are only going to have a couple hundred thousand people apply for unemployment?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And as I said, what did you expect? All these businesses get shut down, people get told to say home and we are only going to have a couple hundred thousand people apply for unemployment?

They did expect it, like I said. Then, when they hear the actual numbers, they realize that the expectation has become reality.

That's it.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 2112

Once this is over I’m expecting things to be back to business as usual.

When do you think its going to be over?

[limested]

Originally Posted by 2112

Yeah, I live in NJ and it’s bad here. And people are getting busted by the cops for having gatherings (40 people and they were adults). And just Monday I’m the first one in shopping at 6am to get bananas and milk and this guy tries leaning over me to get a plastic bag while there’s like 15 plastic bag dispensers with nobody around. I wanted to kill that guy. And I hear the same stories from friends. You can’t fix stupid

Which is why this social distancing and Stay in Place orders are going to be here for longer than we want. Americans are too self centered and stupid to do the proper things to limit the spread unless forced to.

[2112]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

When do you think its going to be over?

I think it depends on where you live. Me personally? I’m ****ed. My state is still rising and the ****ing idiots going out and not getting it are the problem. I don’t want to leave my house anymore.

[FloridaMan88]

Now homemade masks may not be effective, unless you want to suffocate yourself apparently.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...-20/index.html

Studies on the effectiveness of homemade masks are limited: One unpublished study showed that thicker masks worked better, but one mask that was tested was so thick it would “cause great discomfort” and may cause the wearer to pass out.

There were no studies on how well homemade masks fit, the letter said. An ill-fitting mask may leak. And if a person sweats, the moisture could trap the virus and become a potential contamination source.

Another experiment looking at masks made from sweatshirts, t-shirts, towels, scarves and cloth masks found that they reduced some low-level protection against nanoparticles from someone breathing, but not from aerosolized infection.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Also heard the Sg say that "social distancing" will be the new normal after this is all said and done. I have news for him...that ain't gonna happen.

He can kiss my white ass from a social distance. When this shit is said and done I don't even want to hear that ****ing term again.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by limested

Which is why this social distancing and Stay in Place orders are going to be here for longer than we want. Americans are too self centered and stupid to do the proper things to limit the spread unless forced to.

Get the **** out of here. Who "forced" anyone to do anything in the past month and a half?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

He can kiss my white ass from a social distance. When this shit is said and done I don't even want to hear that ****ing term again.

Noted, for future reference.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Noted, for future reference.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Donger

Noted, for future reference.

I will ****ing end you Donger.

[Bugeater]

Well that was rude. Please accept my apology. All this ****ing social distancing is making me a little cranky.

[limested]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Get the **** out of here. Who "forced" anyone to do anything in the past month and a half?

So you say all these businesses are closed and everyone is staying home because they want to?